One doc’s view of the vaccine...

I've gotten the flu every year that I have got the shot. But, hey, people keep buying lottery tickets don't they? 😉🤠

How's your smallpox this year?  Your polio?

If you're someone at risk, you should get the vaccine?
EVERYONE is at risk. Literally everyone. That's... what a novel virus means.

These vaccines have been through the same clinical trials as every other vaccine. The idea of being a "guinea pig" doesn't make any sense.

Do you know how many doses of vaccine have been given so far? Do you know how many significant allergic reactions there have been? Can you do basic math? Then you know that your risk of a serious reaction is one thousandth of one percent. Do you know what your risk of serious reaction is to a tetanus shot? In the habit of refusing those?

It's just basic risk analysis. Your risk from being able to contract the virus (either in terms of your own illness or spreading it to others) is FAR higher than your risk from getting the vaccine. I mean sure, everyone makes their own decisions but... it's hard to see how this isn't a no-brainer.

Sure, you can find a doctor or two who suggest waiting on the vaccine. You can also find a geographer or two who believe the earth is flat, or a zoologist or two who believe in bigfoot. Individual views vs consensus, though...

This has been a fascinating year. We've seen one of mankind's greatest triumphs ever, in the form of developing a vaccine to end a worldwide pandemic in less than a year... and we've also seen people inventing reasons not to do their tiny part to end said pandemic by enduring a sore arm or minor chills for 12 hours.

Human nature is interesting.

For a lot of people it isn't the vaccine, but who pushed the development.
I don't care. I want it.

The CDC has just issued a warning about the vaccine. Enough bad reactions apparently to be concerning.

In general, people aren't smart enough to think about Macro numbers. This is nothing but BS shock stories looking for clicks. 

Newsflash...with macro numbers NOTHING is perfect 100% of the time. It's impossible to be everything to everyone. 

The problem with all of this is we dont KNOW. On either side. Whatever numbers anyone quotes on here to shore up their particular view are just numbers we get from the media. We can only parrot what they tell us, and we can always find someone to tell us whatever we WANT to hear.

And lets be honest. That bunch does not have the greatest reputation for veracity and truth right now. So dishonest polititions with an approval rating of about what, 15% ?, tell a media with even worse issues to tell us "Trust us, this is good for you. Here are the numbers". It's been proven time and time again that the numbers have been twisted from the beginning. And now Im supposed to just believe polititions and media and let them inject me with ... what?

They all, on both sides, squandered and threw away my trust. I look at the folks pushing this whole thing the hardest, and that alone makes me back up and say "nope". But that's just me. Y'all do what you want.

We're the Governmet We're here to help you!!

My apologies, Justin.

Who is the "they" who you think might be lying to you about the vaccine? The career epidemiologists and molecular biologists who have conducted the clinical trials and published the results for peer review, that you can read yourself for free? Why would they be lying and if they are, why has it not been caught during the review process? How could that level of conspiracy possibly go unnoticed? You know the saying about 2 people being able to keep a secret, but 3... well, this would require tens of thousands of people to keep such a secret.

I'm not really trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand - how does that make sense?

Regarding the tiny percentage of reactions, that was my previous point - you actually have a higher risk of a serious reaction to a tetanus shot or many other shots that no one thinks twice about. The numbers are pretty clear on that. So if you aren't afraid of those shots... why this vaccine?

The risk of being hospitalized with COVID is running around 3-5% it seems, depending on your state. The numbers you gave indicate a 0.002% chance of developing a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine. I think I'll take the vaccine's odds myself...

And Lord help the hospitalized patients if cases keep climbing and we run out of ICU beds. I don't know what the survival rate would be in field hospitals.

In NC I'll be eligible in Phase 2. By that time millions in the US will have been vaccinated anyway. But I'm sick and tired of pandemic life, and I'd get the vaccine tomorrow if I were eligible.  

(Note: As a practicing veterinarian I have an extremely high level of confidence in the processes and procedures that go in to creating vaccines. People like to make political arguments when it comes to the vaccines, but the biggest thing Operation Warp Speed did was foot the bill for rapid development -- the science and safety studies behind the vaccines' developments are the same regardless.)

I have faced 3 episodes of off-gassing of hazmat by retailers that had their heads up their butts in the last year.
The worst was by a home improvement center that rhymes with blows.
I slept in more hotel beds than my own in the last year, ate in more restaurants than my home.
Never had a flu shot, the last time I had the flu was 30 years ago.

“That which does not kill us, makes us stronger.” ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

Had a post employment physical that compared my blood, and breathing to my pre-employment physical, passed with flying colors. And an independent physical by my own doctor says that I am in remarkable health compared to any of his other patients.

I could give a damn about contracting covid after all of that...if it happens, it happens.
I am more than glad to let everyone else take the vaccine before me.

I initially had a lot of respect for Fauci, after watching him switch every position he previously adopted, I think that he is overrated, and is a person that continully is testing the winds with his decisions.

It’s all good to each his own.
I don’t expect anyone to adopt my views, neither would I want them to.
I am sympathetic to people with issues compromising their own health, and it is reasonable and prudent for them to get immunized.

My position is in regards to my own health, and I do not really come into contact with people that are at risk. Everyone in my orbit is younger than me, and are at low risk.

The problem here is that most people who have this opinion don't have much knowledge of how science works. The trouble is that we are seeing science work in real time rather than only getting the information after all the kinks have been worked out. Changing recommendations based on new information is fundamental to how science and medicine works.

You saw the same thing (though on a much longer timescale) when it comes to dietary cholesterol. At first cholesterol wasn't a big deal, then it became bad for you, then it turns out its not that bad for you, then they decide that it depends on what TYPE of cholesterol you're dealing with. Only, this happened over the course of 60 years, not 6 months, and not in such a public manner.