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Post by Plainsman on Jan 15, 2021 20:21:22 GMT -5
Read TRINITY long ago. Elizabeth, the first one, settled Scots protestants in the north. That involved kicking Catholics off their land. A long and complex story, and not a very pleasant one. “It” all started there. And the rest is history. Yep. I blame myself. (well, actually, my 7th great grandfather). I also am at fault for about 20 slaves, though I wouldn't own one if you gave it to me. However, I am absolved of the above because my dad was half American Indian. I have a very confusing guilt complex. One ancestor was an advisor to King Henry, and another was an officer in Cromwell's army in Ireland. But I had 2 grandmothers on the Trail of Tears. Another 6th great grandfather led the Schenectady Massacre. I'm not ashamed of him at all. 😁😜😁👹 Please do not take me to “Cromwell’s army in Ireland.” There’s a story or two fer ya. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 15, 2021 20:23:17 GMT -5
Yep. I blame myself. (well, actually, my 7th great grandfather). I also am at fault for about 20 slaves, though I wouldn't own one if you gave it to me. However, I am absolved of the above because my dad was half American Indian. I have a very confusing guilt complex. One ancestor was an advisor to King Henry, and another was an officer in Cromwell's army in Ireland. But I had 2 grandmothers on the Trail of Tears. Another 6th great grandfather led the Schenectady Massacre. I'm not ashamed of him at all. 😁😜😁👹 Please do not take me to “Cromwell’s army in Ireland.” There’s a story or two fer ya. I've heard too many already. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 15, 2021 20:34:40 GMT -5
C’est ça.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 15, 2021 20:51:16 GMT -5
Advisor to Henry? Sir John Falstaff perchance?
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Post by terrapinflyer on Jan 15, 2021 21:04:07 GMT -5
You might like Say Nothing by Patrick Radden Keefe. Thanks for the tip. I’ve read a lot about the Six Counties, but my interest is mostly in the foundation of the Republic. I did an extensive tour of the north a few years back, at the invitation of the UK Tourist Board, to develop cultural tours there. Went into a Catholic church to listen to the choir practice going on and when I came out I was braced by two punks who thought I shouldn’t be going in there. Got off without a rumble but told me I was on “iffy ground.” Made a very strong impression on me. Cool opportunity and sad encounter. I wish I could think of some other titles. I read Say Nothing a few months ago. That's about the length of my memory! Some said it's biased to make Loyalists look like choir boys and IRA like brutes. Focuses on Gerry Adam, so... |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 15, 2021 21:06:41 GMT -5
There were a lot of those Henry dudes. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. Like fleas on a hound. Which one did your ancestor pimp for?
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 15, 2021 21:10:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the tip. I’ve read a lot about the Six Counties, but my interest is mostly in the foundation of the Republic. I did an extensive tour of the north a few years back, at the invitation of the UK Tourist Board, to develop cultural tours there. Went into a Catholic church to listen to the choir practice going on and when I came out I was braced by two punks who thought I shouldn’t be going in there. Got off without a rumble but told me I was on “iffy ground.” Made a very strong impression on me. Cool opportunity and sad encounter. I wish I could think of some other titles. I read Say Nothing a few months ago. That's about the length of my memory! Some said it's biased to make Loyalists look like choir boys and IRA like brutes. Focuses on Gerry Adam, so... Well, some IRA types were, indeed, brutes. But the Orange boys were NEVER angels. Our friend here from NI is probably looking in on this thread with a somewhat jaundiced eye and I don’t blame him, not a bit I do not. But I consider him, if I may, a friend and a colleague and mean nothing untoward at all. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 15, 2021 21:16:37 GMT -5
There were a lot of those Henry dudes. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. Like fleas on a hound. Which one did your ancestor pimp for? You know I don't remember. I would have to go into Ancestry and I'm too tired tonight. I think it was before Henry VIII. They came over with The Bastard. |
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Post by terrapinflyer on Jan 15, 2021 21:22:16 GMT -5
I'd have to do more than read a few books to even begin to form any opinions. Heck--most us here in America don't know American history. Now back to the reading thread.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 15, 2021 21:35:43 GMT -5
I'd have to do more than read a few books to even begin to form any opinions. Heck--most us here in America don't know American history. Now back to the reading thread.  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 15, 2021 21:43:46 GMT -5
I'd have to do more than read a few books to even begin to form any opinions. Heck--most us here in America don't know American history. Now back to the reading thread. See Roots, multiply the movies dastardly deeds by 10, then square it. Genocide. Killed families and took their homes. Took their food and let them starve. Everything you've heard about modern atrocities in Africa, the English did in Ireland. In the name of God. |
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Post by ironclad on Jan 16, 2021 16:44:34 GMT -5
Endangered by Box
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Post by instymp on Jan 18, 2021 18:53:53 GMT -5
Long Range..Box
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Post by jeffd on Jan 22, 2021 19:28:44 GMT -5
I am continuously surprised by it. Two avid readers can get together and have absolutely nothing in common. Two folks, reading over 80 books a year between them, and they might as well be total strangers.
I am reading "The Willows" by Algernon Blackwood. When he is good, he is very very good.
After that I am going to dig into my just arrived "The Best American Noir of the Century".
"It’s the long drop off the short pier and the wrong man and the wrong woman in perfect misalliance. It’s the nightmare of flawed souls with big dreams and the precise how and why of the all-time sure thing that goes bad.”
Reading noir fiction or hard boiled detective novels or watching the movies, especially black and white, all compliment the smoking I am going to be doing anyway!
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Post by urbino on Jan 22, 2021 19:39:54 GMT -5
I am continuously surprised by it. Two avid readers can get together and have absolutely nothing in common. Two folks, reading over 80 books a year between them, and they might as well be total strangers. I am reading "The Willows" by Algernon Blackwood. When he is good, he is very very good. After that I am going to dig into my just arrived "The Best American Noir of the Century". "It’s the long drop off the short pier and the wrong man and the wrong woman in perfect misalliance. It’s the nightmare of flawed souls with big dreams and the precise how and why of the all-time sure thing that goes bad.” Reading noir fiction or hard boiled detective novels or watching the movies, especially black and white, all compliment the smoking I am going to be doing anyway! Recently listened to the audiobook of The Big Sleep a couple of times. Always liked the movie. The book is better, as usual. If you're in the mood for an alternate-history comedy-noir, Michael Chabon's The Yiddish Policeman's Union is one of my favorite books of all time. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 24, 2021 17:48:48 GMT -5
Just finished Ulick O’Connor’s MICHAEL COLLINS & THE TROUBLES. This is the 5th or 6th book on Collins for me and so far it is the absolute best at making sense of the complex events and policies surrounding the 1916 Easter Rebellion, and its aftermath. It’s a heavy job to chop through this complexity with any semblance of order but O’Connor does a masterful job, and if you have any interest in 20th (and even 21st) century Irish history and politics I would suggest this book as essential reading. It is every bit as much a book about the coming of the Republic as it is about Collins’ unparalleled role in making it a realty.
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Post by Professor S. on Jan 24, 2021 18:14:15 GMT -5
What I'm reading for fun: re-reading The Hobbit for the dozenth time since childhood.
What I'm reading for personal edification: Oppenheim's "Ancient Mesopotamia: Portrait of a dead civilization"
Since I have to read what I've assigned to my students: C.S. Lewis' "The Great Divorce" and "The Screwtape Letters."
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Post by Darin on Jan 24, 2021 18:17:54 GMT -5
What I'm reading for fun: re-reading The Hobbit for the dozenth time since childhood. What I'm reading for personal edification: Oppenheim's "Ancient Mesopotamia: Portrait of a dead civilization" Since I have to read what I've assigned to my students: C.S. Lewis' "The Great Divorce" and "The Screwtape Letters." The Screwtape Letters is a favorite! |
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Post by bigwoolie on Jan 24, 2021 21:58:34 GMT -5
Reading some articles on the web on the history and characteristics of Latakia tobacco. I had no idea. It’s actually fascinating stuff.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 24, 2021 22:07:16 GMT -5
Reading some articles on the web on the history and characteristics of Latakia tobacco. I had no idea. It’s actually fascinating stuff. I watched a video about the families that made it in Syria. It was a way of life and generated a good middle class income, but it was a lot of work for the whole family. Then other people decided to have a war. |
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Post by urbino on Jan 24, 2021 22:27:26 GMT -5
What I'm reading for fun: re-reading The Hobbit for the dozenth time since childhood. What I'm reading for personal edification: Oppenheim's "Ancient Mesopotamia: Portrait of a dead civilization" Since I have to read what I've assigned to my students: C.S. Lewis' "The Great Divorce" and "The Screwtape Letters." I never cared much for Lewis's fiction, but he put the English language to good use in his nonfiction, of which I read everything I could lay my hands on. Had that characteristically English economy with words, and dry wit. I know there must be many, but the only person I can think of on this side of the pond with that English-style economy is EB White (again, I preferred the nonfiction), which I suppose is unsurprising, given the contents of Strunk & White. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 25, 2021 0:06:28 GMT -5
What I'm reading for fun: re-reading The Hobbit for the dozenth time since childhood. What I'm reading for personal edification: Oppenheim's "Ancient Mesopotamia: Portrait of a dead civilization" Since I have to read what I've assigned to my students: C.S. Lewis' "The Great Divorce" and "The Screwtape Letters." I never cared much for Lewis's fiction, but he put the English language to good use in his nonfiction, of which I read everything I could lay my hands on. Had that characteristically English economy with words, and dry wit. I know there must be many, but the only person I can think of on this side of the pond with that English-style economy is EB White (again, I preferred the nonfiction), which I suppose is unsurprising, given the contents of Strunk & White. His letters are great fun. |
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Post by urbino on Jan 25, 2021 1:01:03 GMT -5
I never cared much for Lewis's fiction, but he put the English language to good use in his nonfiction, of which I read everything I could lay my hands on. Had that characteristically English economy with words, and dry wit. I know there must be many, but the only person I can think of on this side of the pond with that English-style economy is EB White (again, I preferred the nonfiction), which I suppose is unsurprising, given the contents of Strunk & White. His letters are great fun. Which one? |
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Post by terrapinflyer on Jan 25, 2021 8:10:37 GMT -5
Surrender, New York, by Caleb Carr. I got it a few years back and it got lost in the shuffle, unread. I was glad it turned up on a cold, rainy Sunday.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 25, 2021 8:40:52 GMT -5
His letters are great fun. Which one? Sorry. Lewis. |
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Post by instymp on Jan 25, 2021 18:37:48 GMT -5
 Try the Joe Pickett game warden series. Read 4 of his since your post. I like them, very good, thanks Sir. |
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Post by Gandalf on Jan 25, 2021 22:12:27 GMT -5
Endangered by CJ Box
Thought I had read about everything of his, but now I see I'm a few books behind.
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Post by taiguy66 on Jan 26, 2021 19:47:07 GMT -5
American Gods is a nice read. It's not going to change your life or anything, but it's engaging. Are you American Gods readers watching the TV series? Season 3 just started last Sunday. Yes! Just finished watching the first two episode’s on Amazon yesterday. |
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Post by terrapinflyer on Feb 6, 2021 12:08:00 GMT -5
I just finished the latest in a long string of pulpy newer Victorian murder mysteries, a guilty pleasure. None were noteworthy.
I'm just starting _Our Declaration_ by Danielle Allen. Also, I'm on the library waitlist for _The Founding Myth_ by Anthony Seidel.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Feb 6, 2021 12:17:59 GMT -5
Started Amazon Streaming C B STRIKE, a series about a English soldier , loses leg in Afghanistan, and winds up a Detective, come to find out its based on a series of books written by J K Rowling the goblin gal. She uses the name Robert Galbraith as her litery name. Bought 2 books with kindle and they are very good reads.
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Try the Joe Pickett game warden series.
