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Post by Plainsman on Jan 21, 2021 12:38:27 GMT -5
When I graduated from college, with a concentrated minor in Romance Languages, I was fluent in Spanish and French. The years have eroded both, but I managed to maintain a measure of it in Spanish. Sadly, the French, unused, withered away to a mere nub. 60 years does a lot of withering. Now I am trying to renew my acquaintance. Just subscribed to Mondly, supposedly a good on-line language program. We’ll see. Just wondered if there are many other-tongue speakers among this august body.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 21, 2021 12:47:51 GMT -5
I always had trouble with other languages. I was OK with Spanish years ago, but no more. And what I learned in school bears little resemblance to what is actually spoken. Don't know anyone who speaks French or German.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 21, 2021 12:55:33 GMT -5
I was lucky and even though I went to a small school we had Latin, Spanish, and French available. So I had a running start at uni. Some time on my hands now and would like to reacquaint with “old friends.”
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jan 21, 2021 12:59:23 GMT -5
I learned Cajun French before English, went to France, couldn’t understand the Parisians, but coastal people said I talked the old french. That’s why Navy asked me to volunteer for Loas, when my son graduated from Airborne school, I met the French Forgein Leigon Commander we had a great time swapping stories about IndonChina , he served there too. When I used to visit my wife at the Nurseing home where she did hair , I would visit the old people and talk their language, it made them happy because some of them couldn’t talk English.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 21, 2021 13:02:27 GMT -5
I learned Cajun French before English, went to France, couldn’t understand the Parisians, but coastal people said I talked the old french. That’s why Navy asked me to volunteer for Loas, when my son graduated from Airborne school, I met the French Forgein Leigon Commander we had a great time swapping stories about IndonChina , he served there too. When I used to visit my wife at the Nurseing home where she did hair , I would visit the old people and talk their language, it made them happy because some of them couldn’t talk English. A lot of people in Louisiana don't speak any known language. 😜🤠
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Post by toshtego on Jan 21, 2021 13:08:31 GMT -5
A smattering of Mexican Spanish.
Eine kleine Deutsch.
Veyniker eydish.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 21, 2021 13:08:40 GMT -5
I learned Cajun French before English, went to France, couldn’t understand the Parisians, but coastal people said I talked the old french. That’s why Navy asked me to volunteer for Loas, when my son graduated from Airborne school, I met the French Forgein Leigon Commander we had a great time swapping stories about IndonChina , he served there too. When I used to visit my wife at the Nurseing home where she did hair , I would visit the old people and talk their language, it made them happy because some of them couldn’t talk English. J'étais à peu près sûr que vous parliez le français. Ma mère avait de nombreux amis cajuns et je l'ai entendu quand j'étais enfant mais bien sûr je ne pouvais pas le parler. Pas étonnant que vous ayez une forme plus ancienne de la langue.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jan 21, 2021 13:13:12 GMT -5
I speak it but can’t read it, that’s so sad, but it is what it is. My deed to this farm is written in French, had to get a translator to male me a copy, so I guess you could say I’m a Half arse Cajun.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 21, 2021 13:21:49 GMT -5
I speak it but can’t read it, that’s so sad, but it is what it is. My deed to this farm is written in French, had to get a translator to male me a copy, so I guess you could say I’m a Half arse Cajun. No such thing! I said that I was pretty sure you had French. And that my mother had many Cajun friends and I heard the language as a child but could not speak it. Also that it was not surprising that you had an older form of the language.
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 21, 2021 14:20:08 GMT -5
My mother used to say that if it's not Queens English, it's not English. I took courses in French, German, Greek and Russion in school. I'm an absolute failure at all of them. Including Queens English.
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Post by mrlunting on Jan 21, 2021 14:31:18 GMT -5
Not enough French or Italian to get by anymore. I speak great #$@!ing Irish, even better Canadian eh!
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Post by william on Jan 21, 2021 14:58:11 GMT -5
I had lots of Latin (7th and 8th grades and high school). Managed to pass the Graduate School Foreign Language test in two languages (French and German) to fulfill requirements for advanced degrees, but that is geared toward translating and reading other languages. So I can read those languages, (maybe I should say "could" read those languages), but cannot speak them. (It is a lot easier to learn to read a language than to actually construct and use a language). So all that is of limited practical use.
I did take perverse enjoyment when asked by my urologist, who was about to perform my vasectomy, if I was aware of the teachings of my Church concerning birth control. I told him I had read Pope Paul VI's encyclical "Humanae Vitae" in the original Latin. He simply responded, "Good enough, son. Let's get you clipped." I hadn't read the thing, of course, but it was sort of funny and spared me a conversation I didn't want to have.
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Post by Winton on Jan 22, 2021 6:31:04 GMT -5
I almost finished a Masters in linguistics, but never finished it. I have no idea how many languages I encountered there. Also studied French, German, Russian and Greek. I jokingly say I understood Mandarin. (This would be the red neck dialect of Northern FL.)
I am not sure how many languages are used on our block. Spanish would be the most common.
At this point, I usually communicate with English and Mime.
My wife studied languages in college. One semester, her schedule was Hebrew, Latin, Greek and Muscular Relaxation.
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Post by urbino on Jan 22, 2021 6:49:15 GMT -5
I learned Cajun French before English, went to France, couldn’t understand the Parisians, but coastal people said I talked the old french. That’s why Navy asked me to volunteer for Loas, when my son graduated from Airborne school, I met the French Forgein Leigon Commander we had a great time swapping stories about IndonChina , he served there too. When I used to visit my wife at the Nurseing home where she did hair , I would visit the old people and talk their language, it made them happy because some of them couldn’t talk English. A lot of people in Louisiana don't speak any known language. 😜🤠 I remember back when whenever Dikembi Mutombo (NBA player, for those not familiar) was mentioned, somebody would always say, "He speaks 5 languages." My question was always, "Which one is he intelligible in?"
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Post by urbino on Jan 22, 2021 6:51:50 GMT -5
I speak it but can’t read it, that’s so sad, but it is what it is. My deed to this farm is written in French, had to get a translator to male me a copy, so I guess you could say I’m a Half arse Cajun. I was just the opposite with German. I could read it rather well, but was little more than a tourist when it came to speaking it. Couldn't do either, now. That was 25 years ago.
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Post by briarpipenyc on Jan 22, 2021 8:29:35 GMT -5
By the time I hit my early twenties, I was able to curse, fluently, in about 4-5 languages....but I was proud to be especially colorful with Italian profanity, and NYC street-Spanish vulgarity.
Way back when I was a stupid, easily influenced, eager to learn, 16 year old, I worked in a dilapidated factory located on West 26th Street in Manhattan. I made $72.00/40 hours, and cleared $56.78 after taxes. I worked with a lot of slightly older guys, and joked around with these friendly, "Newyoricans" who delighted in schooling me real good, in the "art-of-the-curse". They were like older brothers. I soaked all of it up like a sponge. My impressive litany of street-Spanish vulgarity was expanding, very rapidly. I spent two of my best, carefree, fun-filled summer-vacations working in that old, smelly, never-inspected-by-OSHA, factory. I am forever in their debt of my Newyorican brother-friends. I really miss those guys. Thanks, Jose R. I still smile and remember the time when you grabbed yourself and told the boss to go....ahhh, never mind.
Of course, as I matured, I became more sophisticated, more educated, and far more discerning. I decided to expanded my repertoire to include some Classic Latin, profanity. But I was quickly dismayed when I realized that it's very difficult to curse effectively in Classic Latin. Way too much is lost in the wordy translations. The syntax, the inflections, too many prepositions, all those declensions, all those active-passive voices, ruin all the fun!
Old school is still the best.
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Post by Professor S. on Jan 22, 2021 8:45:08 GMT -5
My students would claim that I'm fluent in sarcasm, and my wife maintains that "nonsense" is my native tongue. I can read (but not speak) Koine Greek thanks to 4 semesters in college. I'm learning to read Egyptian Heiroglyphs, and I know a smattering of Klingon.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 22, 2021 9:07:51 GMT -5
I learned Spanish and French in school. Being half Brazilian, I should also speak Portuguese, but I don't (there was never any need, living in Northern Ireland). However, I wish I kept the languages up. I tended to do better at them than many other subjects.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 22, 2021 10:46:01 GMT -5
My FIL from Louisiana and WWII could curse in English, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, French and Spanish. And he did. Often embarrassing us. I never could understand his English. I have friends from India who I really like but I have to have a translator to talk to them. I can read 90% of French, German and Spanish texts, but I can not speak the first two at all. Cie la vie.
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Post by Darin on Jan 22, 2021 10:50:44 GMT -5
I took Latin in HS and 2 years of Spanish in college. The Latin was helpful during my pre-med undergrad years and I've learned more "spoken" Spanish in the 25 years living in AZ than at school.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jan 22, 2021 10:51:45 GMT -5
You think Cajun speaking is bad, said in jest, I wish you could of read my Fathers letters when I was in S Asia, guys would hear me chuckle, sometimes upright laugh, telling me about things on the shrimp boat or his Fathers farm. His spelling was so bad but he wrote, I loved him
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 22, 2021 10:58:46 GMT -5
You think Cajun speaking is bad, said in jest, I wish you could of read my Fathers letters when I was in S Asia, guys would hear me chuckle, sometimes upright laugh, telling me about things on the shrimp boat or his Fathers farm. His spelling was so bad but he wrote, I loved him The funny thing is that after I spent the summer in Morgan City, no one at my school in Houston could understand me. I spent all summer with people in Louisiana making fun of the way I talked, then had to put up with it again when I got home. It never bothered me though. 😉
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jan 22, 2021 11:13:02 GMT -5
The only person that never took our speaking ways is my Dutch/German Wife, down here they ask her, Where are you from, Cher.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 22, 2021 11:53:09 GMT -5
The only person that never took our speaking ways is my Dutch/German Wife, down here they ask her, Where are you from, Cher. My wife falls right back into it as soon as we cross the border. It takes me a week..
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 22, 2021 12:28:08 GMT -5
My sister did her graduate work in Middle English Literature. 1300s. She could recite Canterbury Tales like a natural, and at parties often did. She enjoyed reciting some of the bawdiest English stories around without anybody understanding a word she said.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 22, 2021 12:46:15 GMT -5
When I was a kid I could read Beowulf in the old English, but I can't now. It's strange. Use it or lose it I guess.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 22, 2021 12:49:40 GMT -5
When I was in High School in 1966, a kid with the improbable name of "Berkeley Chew" was fluent in the Hobbit language. He had mastered all of the Tolkien lore and painted enormous maps of Middle Earth. Something of a genius. I often wondered what happened to him.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 22, 2021 12:51:26 GMT -5
When I was a kid I could read Beowulf in the old English, but I can't now. It's strange. Use it or lose it I guess. I had enough trouble with Spencer's "The Faerrie Queen" in High School. At the conclusion of the term, I burned the book. The only book I ever destroyed other than mass market paperbacks as fuel in the wood stove. Of you were able to read Old English, I salute you.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 22, 2021 12:52:57 GMT -5
When I was a kid I could read Beowulf in the old English, but I can't now. It's strange. Use it or lose it I guess. I had enough trouble with Spencer's "The Faerrie Queen" in High School. At the conclusion of the term, I burned the book. The only book I ever destroyed other than mass market paperbacks as fuel in the wood stove. Of you were able to read Old English, I salute you. I've never destroyed any books. The shining was the only one that I couldn't read for some strange reason.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 22, 2021 13:09:39 GMT -5
I had enough trouble with Spencer's "The Faerrie Queen" in High School. At the conclusion of the term, I burned the book. The only book I ever destroyed other than mass market paperbacks as fuel in the wood stove. Of you were able to read Old English, I salute you. I've never destroyed any books. The shining was the only one that I couldn't read for some strange reason. What? You don’t like red rum? Did a lot of work in Old (Anglo-Saxon) and Middle English in grad school. Hated the Faerie Queen. Spenser participated in several Irish massacres, but I hated the poem (‘alleged poem’ ha!) way before I knew any of that. (He and Walter Raleigh participated in a doozy in West Kerry.)
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