mtvernon45
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Post by mtvernon45 on Feb 14, 2021 21:44:27 GMT -5
I started Civil War reenacting about 17 years ago, and one of the most enjoyable parts of each event is at night, with the soft glow of lantern and fire, enjoying pipes with several friends.
Is anyone else in that hobby here?
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 14, 2021 22:07:09 GMT -5
My nephew does, but I can't get interested unless they let me change the ending.
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mtvernon45
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Post by mtvernon45 on Feb 14, 2021 22:36:51 GMT -5
No worries! The losing side is well represented.
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Post by Gandalf on Feb 15, 2021 0:18:32 GMT -5
My nephew does, but I can't get interested unless they let me change the ending. Have you read Turtledove?
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Post by calabash on Feb 15, 2021 8:04:40 GMT -5
I joined the SAR last year, and plan to be a color guard Continental once the pandemic is over and they start activities again.
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Post by Legend Lover on Feb 15, 2021 8:25:11 GMT -5
It sounds like it would be great fun. Do they let the Irish take part?
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 15, 2021 9:41:24 GMT -5
My nephew does, but I can't get interested unless they let me change the ending. Have you read Turtledove? I read a lot of his books on Byzantium, but I steered clear of his Southern Victory series. I read a newspaper special on the 100th anniversary of the start, in 1962, about If the South had Won the Civil War and it was awful. Of course, this was just before I learned to not believe anything in the newspaper.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 15, 2021 9:42:11 GMT -5
It sounds like it would be great fun. Do they let the Irish take part? Why not, there were plenty of Irish in the real one.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 15, 2021 9:44:10 GMT -5
You, know, I'll bet that the South actually did win, but the newspaper moguls spread the story that the Yankees won and the sheep believed it.
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Post by zambini on Feb 15, 2021 10:22:58 GMT -5
I started Civil War reenacting about 17 years ago, and one of the most enjoyable parts of each event is at night, with the soft glow of lantern and fire, enjoying pipes with several friends. Is anyone else in that hobby here? Hi, sounds like a fun hobby but I'm curious as to how it works. Do people reenact whole battles or run military drills or are they simulated battles based on certain criteria that means the winner isn't predetermined? Do people reenact battles where they happened or do people in Montana (per se) reenact Bull Run?
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 15, 2021 10:39:59 GMT -5
I started Civil War reenacting about 17 years ago, and one of the most enjoyable parts of each event is at night, with the soft glow of lantern and fire, enjoying pipes with several friends. Is anyone else in that hobby here? Hi, sounds like a fun hobby but I'm curious as to how it works. Do people reenact whole battles or run military drills or are they simulated battles based on certain criteria that means the winner isn't predetermined? Do people reenact battles where they happened or do people in Montana (per se) reenact Bull Run? Yes. All of the above.
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Post by william on Feb 15, 2021 12:22:46 GMT -5
It sounds like it would be great fun. Do they let the Irish take part? Paddy--here's a tune you might like about two Irish brothers who "escaped" Ireland in '48 and fought in the Civil War. link
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 15, 2021 13:20:17 GMT -5
One thing there will NEVER be— re-enactments of the IRISH “civil war.” (An oxymoron if there ever was one.)
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 15, 2021 13:21:22 GMT -5
One thing there will NEVER be— re-enactments of the IRISH “civil war.” (An oxymoron if there ever was one.) No civil war is civil. The Mexican Civil War pretty much was the worst.
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Post by toshtego on Feb 15, 2021 14:20:09 GMT -5
It sounds like it would be great fun. Do they let the Irish take part? Yes, but only under English supervision. Seriously, the Irish were a big part of the armies on both sides. The North has the Irish Brigade including the famous 69th new York.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 15, 2021 14:40:53 GMT -5
It sounds like it would be great fun. Do they let the Irish take part? Yes, but only under English supervision. Seriously, the Irish were a big part of the armies on both sides. The North has the Irish Brigade including the famous 69th new York. And more than a few of the Irish said at the time that they were learning military matters to take them home and use them.
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Post by calabash on Feb 15, 2021 17:30:54 GMT -5
It sounds like it would be great fun. Do they let the Irish take part? Yes, but only under English supervision. Seriously, the Irish were a big part of the armies on both sides. The North has the Irish Brigade including the famous 69th new York. My wife had distant cousins in the Irish Brigade.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 15, 2021 19:49:14 GMT -5
Yes, but only under English supervision. Seriously, the Irish were a big part of the armies on both sides. The North has the Irish Brigade including the famous 69th new York. My wife had distant cousins in the Irish Brigade. There were Irish brigades in the Mexican War, too. Los Patricios. Fighting against the gringos.
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Post by toshtego on Feb 15, 2021 19:53:02 GMT -5
Yes, but only under English supervision. Seriously, the Irish were a big part of the armies on both sides. The North has the Irish Brigade including the famous 69th new York. And more than a few of the Irish said at the time that they were learning military matters to take them home and use them. Easter 1916.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 15, 2021 19:59:07 GMT -5
And more than a few of the Irish said at the time that they were learning military matters to take them home and use them. Easter 1916. None of the CW guys were involved. Too bad.
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Post by bigwoolie on Feb 15, 2021 20:42:54 GMT -5
Several years ago, in Tennessee, I was gonna join the reenactment cavalry of Nathan Bedford Forrest. But I couldn’t afford all of the period correct gear required, and most activities were on Sundays. So I finally gave up.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 15, 2021 21:24:22 GMT -5
My wife had distant cousins in the Irish Brigade. There were Irish brigades in the Mexican War, too. Los Patricios. Fighting against the gringos. I guess it's a good thing that our f-ups stand out so glaringly against the background of the shining city on the hill that we desire to build. I would hate for them to be a slight bubble in the pot of sludge.
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Post by toshtego on Feb 16, 2021 15:47:13 GMT -5
About 35 miles north of here in Colorado is Fort Something or Other. Built in the 1840s. They have a platoon of costumed re-enactors from the Mexican War. They have a Nine Pounder, too. I used to go there on the Fourth of July for the flag raising and the cannon firing. It was fun to watch. They strike up the band and raise the flag, fire the cannon and drill a little with long old smoothbore Springfield muskets. Too many Texans and Coloradans, the ones with the big hats, fancy belt buckles and new pick up trucks, refuse to remove their hats during the flag raising, or shut up or place hand over heart. They stand in front of me with their thumbs in their belts or such. I do get it but that is the way it is now.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 16, 2021 16:14:25 GMT -5
Pike’s Stockade maybe?
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Post by toshtego on Feb 16, 2021 17:03:37 GMT -5
No, that is way to the northeast. I am thinking of Fort Garland. I had a moment of blankness and could not recall the name of the fort or the town which surrounds it.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 16, 2021 17:09:54 GMT -5
No, that is way to the northeast. I am thinking of Fort Garland. I had a moment of blankness and could not recall the name of the fort or the town which surrounds it. On my map looks like Garland is even further east of Pike’s Stockade.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 16, 2021 17:28:15 GMT -5
No, that is way to the northeast. I am thinking of Fort Garland. I had a moment of blankness and could not recall the name of the fort or the town which surrounds it. On my map looks like Garland is even further east of Pike’s Stockade. They seem to be 45 miles apart.
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Post by toshtego on Feb 16, 2021 18:08:53 GMT -5
No, that is way to the northeast. I am thinking of Fort Garland. I had a moment of blankness and could not recall the name of the fort or the town which surrounds it. On my map looks like Garland is even further east of Pike’s Stockade. I was confused. Pike's Stockade is west in Conjeos County. A little fort. I was thinking of a larger trading post out on the plains. Bent's Fort near La Junta CO.
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Post by trailboss on Feb 16, 2021 18:18:56 GMT -5
My childhood was a civil war, 6 boys....brother fought brother.
We went through reconstruction and all get along pretty well now though.
Seriously, my family fought in every war since the revolutionary war on Dad's side. My ancestor by the name of James was listed as a union deserter for decades until my aunt did the footwork, found out he was in a hospital after being shot up and discharged at the end of the war. He quietly went home to live his life never contacting the gubmint, so he (probably unknowingly) was listed as a deserter.
Aunt Ruby was hardcore though, she straightened it all out with a posthumous correction...the dogged genealogy researcher she was.
Mom's side was native American, don't think they took sides.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 16, 2021 19:34:43 GMT -5
My childhood was a civil war, 6 boys....brother fought brother. We went through reconstruction and all get along pretty well now though. Seriously, my family fought in every war since the revolutionary war on Dad's side. My ancestor by the name of James was listed as a union deserter for decades until my aunt did the footwork, found out he was in a hospital after being shot up and discharged at the end of the war. He quietly went home to live his life never contacting the gubmint, so he (probably unknowingly) was listed as a deserter. Aunt Ruby was hardcore though, she straightened it all out with a posthumous correction...the dogged genealogy researcher she was. Mom's side was native American, don't think they took sides. The native Americans did take sides, and got screwed whether their side won or lost.
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