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Post by pepesdad1 on Apr 29, 2019 19:42:22 GMT -5
Ted has a good idea...start turning some other wood to get a feel for it again...then hit the briar and see how it goes...and make use of Cramps for advice and suggestions...nothing like a friend in the business who has already "been down that road".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 19:46:33 GMT -5
Well, well, well, guess what was at my door this morning? I spoke too soon. 8oz of PS English Oriental & 2oz of Plum Pudding. The odour of latakia was particularly strong when I opened the box. Glad to hear that your order made it to you, Elric. Besides having your tobacco confiscated, those fines you spoke of are terrible.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 29, 2019 20:03:11 GMT -5
Hit me up if you have ANY questions. Will do. Trying to figure out the best material supplier. Getting pointed in the right direction would be appreciated. I'll PM you.
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Post by jeffd on Apr 29, 2019 20:43:22 GMT -5
Thinking out loud here; I'm wondering if the strong odour of latakia would be more likely attract a sniffer dog, or as it smells like a campfire, is it less likely to trigger an alert? Let's face it, latakia has a one of a kind aroma. I think that a dog could be trained to notice and identify latakia.
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Post by elric on Apr 29, 2019 22:08:17 GMT -5
Thinking out loud here; I'm wondering if the strong odour of latakia would be more likely attract a sniffer dog, or as it smells like a campfire, is it less likely to trigger an alert? Let's face it, latakia has a one of a kind aroma. I think that a dog could be trained to notice and identify latakia. Latakia has such a distinctively strong odour, it would be so easy to train a dog to detect it. They'd smell it a mile away. Up until around 18 months ago, I'd never even heard of latakia. The range of tobacco here in Oz is very limited due to the ludicrous packaging laws. If a dog was trained to detect tobacco, the trainers would have used cigarette tobacco, Virginias & burley. As latakia smells of asphalt, burnt rubber & butt, I'm wondering if that would confuse a sniffer dogs senses into making it think that an English blend is something other than tobacco.
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Post by elric on Apr 29, 2019 22:19:54 GMT -5
Well, well, well, guess what was at my door this morning? I spoke too soon. 8oz of PS English Oriental & 2oz of Plum Pudding. The odour of latakia was particularly strong when I opened the box. Glad to hear that your order made it to you, Elric. Besides having your tobacco confiscated, those fines you spoke of are terrible. Thanks Walkman. At least the worst that happens is that Customs destroys an order if the duty is not paid & then that's the end of it. No repercussions. I've been rather fortunate & shouldn't complain really as I've now got around 30lb cellared. I'm much better off than most Aussie pipe smokers.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Apr 29, 2019 22:23:27 GMT -5
Glad to hear that your order made it to you, Elric. Besides having your tobacco confiscated, those fines you spoke of are terrible. Thanks Walkman. At least the worst that happens is that Customs destroys an order if the duty is not paid & then that's the end of it. No repercussions. I've been rather fortunate & shouldn't complain really as I've now got around 30lb cellared. I'm much better off than most Aussie pipe smokers. Wouldn't it be better to just legally import the tobacco and pay the duty?
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Post by jeffd on Apr 29, 2019 22:24:07 GMT -5
I think that a dog could be trained to notice and identify latakia. Latakia has such a distinctively strong odour, it would be so easy to train a dog to detect it. They'd smell it a mile away. Up until around 18 months ago, I'd never even heard of latakia. The range of tobacco here in Oz is very limited due to the ludicrous packaging laws. If a dog was trained to detect tobacco, the trainers would have used cigarette tobacco, Virginias & burley. As latakia smells of asphalt, burnt rubber & butt, I'm wondering if that would confuse a sniffer dogs senses into making it think that an English blend is something other than tobacco. I don't think you can confuse a sniffer dog. They way they are trained and their amazing ability to discern between smells, I am convinced there is not a way to confuse a professional sniffer dog. I saw this, which may or may not be relevant: "Unlike humans, trained police dogs have the ability to separate odors mixed together. When presented with a bowl of stew, a human sees all the different ingredients but smells just one odor. A police dog can smell, distinguish, and separate each ingredient contained in the stew simply by sniffing it. "This explains why masking odors does not work. If a smuggler wrapped a pound of marijuana in sheets of fabric softener followed by a good wrap of foil, and finally placed it in a can of coffee, a dog smells the fabric softener, the foil, the coffee, and the marijuana. ... Drug dogs are taught which odors provide the reward."
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Post by elric on Apr 29, 2019 22:51:54 GMT -5
Thanks Walkman. At least the worst that happens is that Customs destroys an order if the duty is not paid & then that's the end of it. No repercussions. I've been rather fortunate & shouldn't complain really as I've now got around 30lb cellared. I'm much better off than most Aussie pipe smokers. Wouldn't it be better to just legally import the tobacco and pay the duty? If the duty was reasonable then yes, that would be my preference. Unfortunately, the duty is outrageous. At over $544aud a pound, I simply couldn't afford it. 50 grams of tobacco is now $90 here in Oz. By the end of the year it will be $100 for 50 grams. Outrageous & contemptible in my opinion.
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Post by elric on Apr 29, 2019 23:25:01 GMT -5
Latakia has such a distinctively strong odour, it would be so easy to train a dog to detect it. They'd smell it a mile away. Up until around 18 months ago, I'd never even heard of latakia. The range of tobacco here in Oz is very limited due to the ludicrous packaging laws. If a dog was trained to detect tobacco, the trainers would have used cigarette tobacco, Virginias & burley. As latakia smells of asphalt, burnt rubber & butt, I'm wondering if that would confuse a sniffer dogs senses into making it think that an English blend is something other than tobacco. I don't think you can confuse a sniffer dog. They way they are trained and their amazing ability to discern between smells, I am convinced there is not a way to confuse a professional sniffer dog. I saw this, which may or may not be relevant: "Unlike humans, trained police dogs have the ability to separate odors mixed together. When presented with a bowl of stew, a human sees all the different ingredients but smells just one odor. A police dog can smell, distinguish, and separate each ingredient contained in the stew simply by sniffing it. "This explains why masking odors does not work. If a smuggler wrapped a pound of marijuana in sheets of fabric softener followed by a good wrap of foil, and finally placed it in a can of coffee, a dog smells the fabric softener, the foil, the coffee, and the marijuana. ... Drug dogs are taught which odors provide the reward." That's definitely relevant and answers my question thanks. Yes, if trained to detect tobacco then latakia would not put them off if dogs are able to "separate odours".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 23:51:45 GMT -5
As latakia smells of asphalt, burnt rubber & butt, ... It doesn't quite smell like that to me, but we all sense things differently.
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Post by elric on Apr 30, 2019 1:13:49 GMT -5
As latakia smells of asphalt, burnt rubber & butt, ... It doesn't quite smell like that to me, but we all sense things differently. That was how I described my first exposure to an English blend, Becks 'ol Limey Bastard around 18 months ago. "Do people actually smoke this shite?" I thought. Intrigued, I had a small bowl. It wasn't foul as I expected. So I mixed it 50/50 with Windsail Virginia. One small bowl at night was nice, two bowls was one too many. It's interesting how tastes change over time. English, American, crossovers are now my mainstay blends. Some blends smell nice, especially those with a light topping such as Epiphany, Count Pulaski or Chestnut for example. Those where latakia has been used as a condiment. Straight latakia on the other hand, still smells of asphalt, burnt rubber & butt.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 30, 2019 6:00:52 GMT -5
Latakia has such a distinctively strong odour, it would be so easy to train a dog to detect it. They'd smell it a mile away. Up until around 18 months ago, I'd never even heard of latakia. The range of tobacco here in Oz is very limited due to the ludicrous packaging laws. If a dog was trained to detect tobacco, the trainers would have used cigarette tobacco, Virginias & burley. As latakia smells of asphalt, burnt rubber & butt, I'm wondering if that would confuse a sniffer dogs senses into making it think that an English blend is something other than tobacco. I don't think you can confuse a sniffer dog. They way they are trained and their amazing ability to discern between smells, I am convinced there is not a way to confuse a professional sniffer dog. I saw this, which may or may not be relevant: "Unlike humans, trained police dogs have the ability to separate odors mixed together. When presented with a bowl of stew, a human sees all the different ingredients but smells just one odor. A police dog can smell, distinguish, and separate each ingredient contained in the stew simply by sniffing it. "This explains why masking odors does not work. If a smuggler wrapped a pound of marijuana in sheets of fabric softener followed by a good wrap of foil, and finally placed it in a can of coffee, a dog smells the fabric softener, the foil, the coffee, and the marijuana. ... Drug dogs are taught which odors provide the reward." what if the whole thing was coated in vicks? My dog can't stand the stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 6:13:58 GMT -5
@legend Lover.........what if the whole thing was coated in vicks? My dog can't stand the stuff.
Dogs have a much greater sense of smell compared to humans. Dogs have up to 300 million olfactory receptors in their noses, compared to about six million in humans. I’ve seen “ coke “ ( not the beverage ) packed in heavy foil then packed in horse manure, a dog that’s trained to smell a “ specific drug “ will still be able to sniff out the coke. Same with marijuana.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Apr 30, 2019 6:27:23 GMT -5
Drug dogs cannot be fooled.
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Post by dervis on Apr 30, 2019 8:07:15 GMT -5
Got two of the three pack MM Seconds. They were out of the larger bags when I ordered. So 6 cobs and as usual can not find a single issue with any of them that would make me consider them seconds.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 30, 2019 10:46:05 GMT -5
@legend Lover.........what if the whole thing was coated in vicks? My dog can't stand the stuff. Dogs have a much greater sense of smell compared to humans. Dogs have up to 300 million olfactory receptors in their noses, compared to about six million in humans. I’ve seen “ coke “ ( not the beverage ) packed in heavy foil then packed in horse manure, a dog that’s trained to smell a “ specific drug “ will still be able to sniff out the coke. Same with marijuana. I suppose it DOES make you breathe better. 😉
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Post by jeffd on Apr 30, 2019 12:26:06 GMT -5
Drug dogs cannot be fooled. Everything I have read confirms this. I have no personal expertise however, just reading. But if I were a betting man this is the way I would bet. You disbelieve this at your own risk. There have been cases, I have read, where smugglers have gotten away with it because the inspectors did not believe their dogs. LOL
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Post by Baboo on Apr 30, 2019 13:10:50 GMT -5
Davidoff: Royalty 50g
Savinelli: Doblone d'Oro 100g
Arango: Balkan Supreme 6oz.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 13:24:01 GMT -5
There are many dogs trained to sniff out explosives “ only “. I know of one dog “ Baron “ and his owner who will remain anonymous, this dog is the one that sniffed a bomb that was planted well inside a vehicle in NYC within the area of Times Square. This device was designed to cause major damage to buildings and the many people that frequent the Times Square area. This is one amazing dog, as well as his handler/owner. The cost of the dog and the training exceeds the $15,000 dollars point, it’s money well spent. When it’s time for the dog to retire, he/she belongs to the handler for the remainder of the dogs life. Baron is now retired, a great well behaved dog. The perfect dog to protect one’s home. Even myself that knows this dog well can not enter the home without the command of it’s owner.
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Post by monbla256 on Apr 30, 2019 18:05:45 GMT -5
I don't have any drug sniffing dogs in the mail like the rest of you do, just 'baccy! * 4-100 g tins of OGS *6 oz C&D Yorktown 6-100 pack JB Long clnrs. How much do your drug sniffing dogs cost BTW ?
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Post by mpuffington on May 1, 2019 10:24:18 GMT -5
Postman just left my latest tobacco order while I was in the shower. Just cut it open and took a pic. Packin' and stackin' time. Slow and steady wins the race. Grabbed a few of tins, plus 1 pound of each: 10 to Midnight, Anniversary Kake, and Russ' Tasty Kake.
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Post by Baboo on May 1, 2019 14:38:47 GMT -5
5 tins, Capstan Flake Blue...
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Post by sperrytops on May 1, 2019 15:02:20 GMT -5
Just received from TobaccoPipes: 2x 4 0z SPC PLum Pudding Special Reserve 2x 4 ox SPC Mississippi River Special Reserve 2 oz SPC Hood Canal 2 oz SPC Potlatch 2 oz SPC Seattle Evening 8 oz SPC Mississippi River 1.5 oz Sutliff Crumble Kake English #1 (apparently Sutliff is blended by Mac Baren) Dunhill lighter flints
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 1, 2019 18:12:45 GMT -5
100g Marlin Flake 2 2oz. Mad Fiddler Flake 1 2oz. Six Pence
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 18:41:13 GMT -5
Just ordered 3 oz of Scotty's Butternut Burley from P&C.
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Post by xingpao on May 1, 2019 19:13:24 GMT -5
Hmm a few things. A couple C&D small batch on the way, 2x 1.75 vintage syrian, some smoker's haven including a small amount of krumble kake. 2009 plum pudding.
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Post by scrooge on May 1, 2019 19:19:51 GMT -5
Thanks for the great gift Ken! A big bag of Kona coffee an Stone Haven too! What goes around comes around.
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 1, 2019 19:37:40 GMT -5
Oh, Ken...you are in for it now!!! Scrooge has your number and you are about to know first hand about trying to beat Scrooge in gifting war...you both will come out being thrilled.
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Post by kbareit on May 1, 2019 19:49:05 GMT -5
Oh, Ken...you are in for it now!!! Scrooge has your number and you are about to know first hand about trying to beat Scrooge in gifting war...you both will come out being thrilled. Scrooge already got me once with a bunch of pipes and I heard he liked Kona coffee so I got him some. A coffee shop I do work for owed me a favor so I called it in.
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