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Post by mgtarheel on Sept 2, 2024 14:22:00 GMT -5
"Count Zero" by William Gibson
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Post by Zach on Sept 4, 2024 21:52:19 GMT -5
The Library of America Nabokov Novels 1955-1962. First up, Lolita.
Investment Classics Bogle on Mutual Funds - John C. Bogle
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 5, 2024 10:55:10 GMT -5
The Library of America Nabokov Novels 1955-1962. First up, Lolita. Investment Classics Bogle on Mutual Funds - John C. Bogle I was about 14 when I read Lolita. I suppose it would be better as an adult, but I have no interest in ever reading it again. Around the same time I read Lady Chatterly's Lover, Fanny Hill and Madam Bovary. All had a better story and more interesting characters. I read them as literature, not for titilation, not that there wasn't some. Of course at that time I really didn't have a clue. Every character in Lolita was unlikeable and I hate books and movies like that. I have a copy of Women in Love by DH Laurence on the shelf I may get to some day. I've always had a thing for banned books.
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Post by mgtarheel on Sept 5, 2024 14:51:41 GMT -5
"Mona Lisa Overdrive" by William Gibson
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Post by mgtarheel on Sept 7, 2024 17:34:23 GMT -5
"The Book of Elsewhere" by Keanu Reeves & China Mieville
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Post by Mrs. Zarnicky on Sept 8, 2024 17:57:02 GMT -5
Zarnicky reading wonderful book. It called "American Breakfast" by Chris P. Bacon
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Post by JimK on Sept 9, 2024 11:28:13 GMT -5
Zarnicky reading wonderful book. It called "American Breakfast" by Chris P. Bacon Good one! Have you read The History of Watchmaking by Justin Thyme?
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Post by Mrs. Zarnicky on Sept 9, 2024 11:40:47 GMT -5
Zarnicky reading wonderful book. It called "American Breakfast" by Chris P. Bacon Good one! Have you read The History of Watchmaking by Justin Thyme? Zarnicky never reading that one. In Old Country, Zarnicky was dental technician. I putting myself through dental school by playing ukulele. I stringing ukulele with dental floss. Zarnicky feeling ukulele is instrument you can sinking teeth into. My favourite book at time called "Dentistry". It written by Dr. Phil McCavity.
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Post by bill1994eopd on Sept 13, 2024 14:48:52 GMT -5
Inside the Texas Revolution: The Enigmatic Memoir of Herman Ehrenberg (2021) by James Crisp This is a translation (from German) and exposition of Herman Ehrenberg's eyewitness account of the Texas Revolution, first published as Texas und Seine Revolution (1843).
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 13, 2024 23:09:29 GMT -5
Inside the Texas Revolution: The Enigmatic Memoir of Herman Ehrenberg (2021) by James Crisp This is a translation (from German) and exposition of Herman Ehrenberg's eyewitness account of the Texas Revolution, first published as Texas und Seine Revolution (1843). It looks like worthwhile reading. I have about 30 Texas history books that I will never get around to reading. My reading is deteriorating to the point I'll soon be watching Tic Toc.
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Post by bill1994eopd on Sept 14, 2024 17:30:55 GMT -5
Watching TicTok for 5 minutes is likely to cause more brain damage than banging your head against the wall for an equal period of time.
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Post by Zach on Sept 14, 2024 21:03:25 GMT -5
Nabokov’s Favorite Word Is Mauve by Ben Blatt
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Post by Mrs. Zarnicky on Sept 14, 2024 21:28:22 GMT -5
Zarnicky reading new book about antigravity. I just can't putting it down.
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Post by don on Sept 14, 2024 22:36:37 GMT -5
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Post by urbino on Sept 14, 2024 23:58:26 GMT -5
Nabokov’s Favorite Word Is Mauve by Ben Blatt Interesting title.
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Post by Zach on Sept 15, 2024 8:03:52 GMT -5
Nabokov’s Favorite Word Is Mauve by Ben Blatt Interesting title. It’s a little book about statistical analysis of various author’s adverb usage, most used words, words most used by men vs women authors, and things of that nature.
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Post by The Wizzard on Sept 15, 2024 8:12:04 GMT -5
It’s a little book about statistical analysis of various author’s adverb usage, most used words, words most used by men vs women authors, and things of that nature. Did you know that 43.2% of all statistics are made up? Also, tobacco is the leading cause of statistics.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 15, 2024 11:58:31 GMT -5
Watching TicTok for 5 minutes is likely to cause more brain damage than banging your head against the wall for an equal period of time. No argument here. Just an old brain.
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Post by bill1994eopd on Sept 15, 2024 12:54:51 GMT -5
Watching TicTok for 5 minutes is likely to cause more brain damage than banging your head against the wall for an equal period of time. No argument here. Just an old brain. LibriVox has thousands of free (no strings attached) audiobooks available for download or listening to online. The only downside is that the books are read by volunteers, not professional narrators with smooth baritone voices.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 16, 2024 10:43:19 GMT -5
No argument here. Just an old brain. LibriVox has thousands of free (no strings attached) audiobooks available for download or listening to online. The only downside is that the books are read by volunteers, not professional narrators with smooth baritone voices. I have 933 titles in my Audible account and another hundred on Chirp. About 300 of them are unread. I'm just running out of interest in the ones that are out there. At this point everything seems to be derivative from tons of stuff I've already read. All my history books are paper and I get tired reading. I once didn't sleep for 2 days reading when I was a kid. Now 30 minutes is tiring.
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Post by Zach on Sept 16, 2024 10:58:19 GMT -5
I listened to one audiobook once, 13 years ago. I can’t stand them and must have the physical book on paper. I do have thousands of ebooks for preservation but almost never read them. I also take a very controversial stance (these days of fake BookTok and Booktubers claiming they read 10-20+ books a month by listening to them) that listening to a book is not reading a book. I am vehemently in that camp.
I’n starting Pnin by Vladimir Nabokov.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 16, 2024 11:45:55 GMT -5
I listened to one audiobook once, 13 years ago. I can’t stand them and must have the physical book on paper. I do have thousands of ebooks for preservation but almost never read them. I also take a very controversial stance (these days of fake BookTok and Booktubers claiming they read 10-20+ books a month by listening to them) that listening to a book is not reading a book. I am vehemently in that camp. I’n starting Pnin by Vladimir Nabokov. Well, I think you are full of it. By listening you get the same absorption of content. My main complaint is that I can read a lot faster than I can listen. But since I just do it for enjoyment, I don't see a problem. My old eyes are tired. I'm pretty sure that I've read more printed books than anyone else on the forum .
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Post by Zach on Sept 16, 2024 12:08:19 GMT -5
If it’s a REALLY good story and narrator, and one is engrossed, I can partially agree. Mostly agree. However, most folks I have debated about this use audio books so that they can multitask and work while listening, clean, drive, etc. and the human mind does not work that way.
Overall, the mind is worked and used differently when processing actual reading and committing to memory and I do not agree an audio book is equal to reading. Maybe if you listen through 3-4 times all the way through and at least once is very attentive listening withhout distraction. I die on this hill, there is too much evidence that committing to memory works better writing and reading the text.
I caveat this by agreeing it is one tool and method to absorb a story. It’s great (if you like the narrator’s voice) as a read along companion. But where I hard disagree precisely is that it’s equal to reading. Some argue it’s exactly the same, and it very clearly is not the same thing.
To crystalize; Those that say they “read 15 books this month” by listening to audiobooks, did not. They read 0 books this month. They listened to and partially gleaned stories by speed listening.
(That is something like 50+ hours of listening to audiobooks at least within a month and almost certainly all the while distracted by numerous other things.)
Anyone is entitled to their opinion. I however, would prefer that you said truthfully “I listened” to said book. I would never agree that you read the book. Like walking vs driving somewhere. You put in the work mentally, or you use a vehicle to take you there and do the work for you. It’s a poorly-translated metaphor I must admit, but it gets the exact point across. You can’t say that you walked 25 miles across town but then admit well, I actually drove. Same thing, right? Fundamentally, the brain works a special way processing and reading each and every word, break, and punctuation. Listening is entirely different to the brain.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 16, 2024 12:39:28 GMT -5
If it’s a REALLY good story and narrator, and one is engrossed, I can partially agree. Mostly agree. However, most folks I have debated about this use audio books so that they can multitask and work while listening, clean, drive, etc. and the human mind does not work that way. Overall, the mind is worked and used differently when processing actual reading and committing to memory and I do not agree an audio book is equal to reading. Maybe if you listen through 3-4 times all the way through and at least once is very attentive listening withhout distraction. I die on this hill, there is too much evidence that committing to memory works better writing and reading the text. I caveat this by agreeing it is one tool and method to absorb a story. It’s great (if you like the narrator’s voice) as a read along companion. But where I hard disagree precisely is that it’s equal to reading. Some argue it’s exactly the same, and it very clearly is not the same thing. To crystalize; Those that say they “read 15 books this month” by listening to audiobooks, did not. They read 0 books this month. They listened to and partially gleaned stories by speed listening. (That is something like 50+ hours of listening to audiobooks at least within a month and almost certainly all the while distracted by numerous other things.) Anyone is entitled to their opinion. I however, would prefer that you said truthfully “I listened” to said book. I would never agree that you read the book. Like walking vs driving somewhere. You put in the work mentally, or you use a vehicle to take you there and do the work for you. It’s a poorly-translated metaphor I must admit, but it gets the exact point across. You can’t say that you walked 25 miles across town but then admit well, I actually drove. Same thing, right? Fundamentally, the brain works a special way processing and reading each and every word, break, and punctuation. Listening is entirely different to the brain. Go ahead and die on your hill by yourself. I don't care about your opinion on this. FU.
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Post by Zach on Sept 16, 2024 12:43:29 GMT -5
F me for stating my opinion? What a way to react and behave in a normal discourse.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 16, 2024 13:33:18 GMT -5
F me for stating my opinion? What a way to react and behave in a normal discourse. You overstated you opinion in a critical and disparaging way.
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Post by Zach on Sept 16, 2024 13:42:27 GMT -5
Well it was not directed at you or any kind of attack. You must have felt called out and offended by it. I don’t believe my stated opinion in any way was disparaging. I state that listening to a book, is listening to a book. So be it. Last I’ll mention it.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 16, 2024 14:20:17 GMT -5
Well it was not directed at you or any kind of attack. You must have felt called out and offended by it. I don’t believe my stated opinion in any way was disparaging. I state that listening to a book, is listening to a book. So be it. Last I’ll mention it. OK. I took it personal. Maybe it wasn't intended that way. I have listened to books while driving that I have perfect retention of. (that seems like bad grammar but I'm too tired to fix it). My wife and I love to listen to audio books on road trips. A lot of what we listen to are things I've already read but she's not a reader as a rule. I have driven over a million miles and I have no trouble doing both. I can handle 3 threads in my head now. When I was a teen I could manage 7. Everyone is different and you can't judge anyone else by your abilities.
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