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Post by toshtego on Oct 20, 2019 19:11:32 GMT -5
I have three Rolex's and all are excellent watches but now days way overpriced ! I have my fathers Explorer he bought in '56 and my Day/Date I bought in '72 when my daughter was born and a '62 Submariner i bought from a friend in '75. None of these watches were more than $200.0 when made but now would be worth multiple k's in today's market.  That Day/Date you purchased in 1972 was a bit more than $200. I looked at that Rolex back then and settled on an Omega which was $200. Sadly I did not have the Omega more than a few months before the pins failed, the watch fell off and was lost. A problem which has plagued me since. |
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Post by monbla256 on Oct 20, 2019 21:05:30 GMT -5
I have three Rolex's and all are excellent watches but now days way overpriced ! I have my fathers Explorer he bought in '56 and my Day/Date I bought in '72 when my daughter was born and a '62 Submariner i bought from a friend in '75. None of these watches were more than $200.0 when made but now would be worth multiple k's in today's market. That Day/Date you purchased in 1972 was a bit more than $200. I looked at that Rolex back then and settled on an Omega which was $200. Sadly I did not have the Omega more than a few months before the pins failed, the watch fell off and was lost. A problem which has plagued me since. |
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Post by driftingfate on Oct 20, 2019 21:45:22 GMT -5
The Submariner is a true classic - possibly the ultimate classic expression of the dive style watch. It's still staggeringly expensive because of the name.
A friend clued me into Grand Seikos. Brilliant, hand made, with beauty and Japanese artistry as opposed to Japanese generic attitudes.
Much less than a Rolex, still very speedy, I was put off thinking about paying that much "just for a Seiko", but after some study and visiting their boutique in Beverly Hills (?!?), I became a believer. Don't have one yet, but my Forever Watch will be from them.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 21, 2019 10:22:25 GMT -5
I have a beautiful Gold Polex Submariner that keeps perfect time when I can get the very unusual battery. 😁🤠 I can't tell because the info on the back is in Chinese. It was brand new when I bought it for $5 about 4 years ago. |
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Post by toshtego on Oct 21, 2019 10:54:16 GMT -5
The Submariner is a true classic - possibly the ultimate classic expression of the dive style watch. It's still staggeringly expensive because of the name. A friend clued me into Grand Seikos. Brilliant, hand made, with beauty and Japanese artistry as opposed to Japanese generic attitudes. Much less than a Rolex, still very speedy, I was put off thinking about paying that much "just for a Seiko", but after some study and visiting their boutique in Beverly Hills (?!?), I became a believer. Don't have one yet, but my Forever Watch will be from them. I prefer mechanical watches to the modern quartz movement. Obscure or less popular Swiss movements are what I liked having. Currently an ETA2472, 21 jewel movement from the early 1960s in a Nivada Depthomatic case. The town of Grenchen was home to a number of excellent but less well known watches. Rolex became overpriced decades ago. People love them and if they do not mind paying extra for the status of the name,then they should enjoy them. Rolex also specialized in some mighty splendid cases which would be thrilling to own. So long as it is clear an equal or even better movement can be had in a different case for less money. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 21, 2019 11:15:55 GMT -5
I also prefer mechanical movements, but most of my automatics are not Swiss. My only Swiss watch is an Edox Les Bemonts Automatic Chronometer (ETA 2892-A2). It's the thinnest Swiss automatic movement and extremely accurate. It lives on the 8 place automatic winder. It's claim to fame is it's thinness. Perfect for people who wear long sleeve dress shirts. (not me). I don't dress up enough to get any use out of it, but I can't bring myself to get rid of this mechanical masterpiece. i.imgur.com/DAXXA96.jpgimgur.com/a/lpYwMq1 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 11:16:04 GMT -5
The ETA movement is in almost all Swiss made watches and in the end you are paying for the name. I could be wrong but at this point I believe Seiko and Rolex are the only two in house made movements. I am sure there must be some other German in house made but I don't know the brands. A true believer in Seiko they make the finest watch ever made a real mechanical watch can be had from 400 to 5000 depending on what one wants to spend. The SARB all the way up to the Spring Drive can last a lifetime if taken care of.
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Post by monbla256 on Oct 21, 2019 12:05:35 GMT -5
The ETA movement is in almost all Swiss made watches and in the end you are paying for the name. I could be wrong but at this point I believe Seiko and Rolex are the only two in house made movements. I am sure there must be some other German in house made but I don't know the brands. A true believer in Seiko they make the finest watch ever made a real mechanical watch can be had from 400 to 5000 depending on what one wants to spend. The SARB all the way up to the Spring Drive can last a lifetime if taken care of.
1 step below the Grand Seiko, in the Swiss chronometer competition and they took 1st and second in the competition. In '69 the Swiss only allowed German or Swiss movements and have only allowed such since. Many of Seiko's and Orients meet these requirements today ! I have a friend from Tokyo whose in his 80s who has a King Seiko he's had since the '60s and it's still keeping excellent time and just ticking away ! |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 21, 2019 12:23:22 GMT -5
I really like some of the higher end Orient and Sea Gull watches. I had a decent Orient that was taken out by a slipped wrench working on a Buick.
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I just looked at the prices of the Sea Gull and Orient watches and they are much more expensive than the last time I looked. Still probably bargains compared to the competition. I like that you can get a really nice classic face with the automatic movement for a fraction of the price of the Swiss equivalent.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 12:42:38 GMT -5
Probably a Lord Marvel those were 8 beats per second making for a smooth seconds hand at 36000 beats even now most high end mechanicals are 28000 and the movements were very thin. The cheaper mechanicals are rather large in height. You can find those in abundance in the 200-300 range. I have never had a Orient apart but I have seen a Seagull apart and they are very ugly not near as much care in polishing as you will find in the Seiko. I have a Bulova automatic and while I like the watch it keeps terrible time over the course of week it will lose up to a minute or more.
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Post by Penzaholic on Oct 21, 2019 17:11:10 GMT -5
Wore my blue face Pulsar for the first time in months
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Post by toshtego on Oct 21, 2019 18:20:41 GMT -5
I also prefer mechanical movements, but most of my automatics are not Swiss. My only Swiss watch is an Edox Les Bemonts Automatic Chronometer (ETA 2892-A2). It's the thinnest Swiss automatic movement and extremely accurate. It lives on the 8 place automatic winder. It's claim to fame is it's thinness. Perfect for people who wear long sleeve dress shirts. (not me). I don't dress up enough to get any use out of it, but I can't bring myself to get rid of this mechanical masterpiece. i.imgur.com/DAXXA96.jpgimgur.com/a/lpYwMq1ETA 2892 is considered an excellent movement. I would keep that one. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 19:17:52 GMT -5
 My favorite the Seiko Sealion m55.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 21, 2019 19:52:26 GMT -5
I also prefer mechanical movements, but most of my automatics are not Swiss. My only Swiss watch is an Edox Les Bemonts Automatic Chronometer (ETA 2892-A2). It's the thinnest Swiss automatic movement and extremely accurate. It lives on the 8 place automatic winder. It's claim to fame is it's thinness. Perfect for people who wear long sleeve dress shirts. (not me). I don't dress up enough to get any use out of it, but I can't bring myself to get rid of this mechanical masterpiece. i.imgur.com/DAXXA96.jpgimgur.com/a/lpYwMq1ETA 2892 is considered an excellent movement. I would keep that one. I wore it for a couple of hours today. You don't even notice that your wearing it. I have over 30 watches and I haven't worn one in about 4 years. Except for dress up parties and such. |
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Oct 21, 2019 20:27:29 GMT -5
Hopefully Jim was able to get this watch fixed as obviously it was very special to him.
We miss you old buddy
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Post by toshtego on Oct 21, 2019 21:17:12 GMT -5
My favorite the Seiko Sealion m55. Seiko makes nice watches. The Japanese make most everything very well with a proper attention to detail and quality. That says something to me about them which I admire them for. Toyota Landcruiser, 32 years, still running fine mostly. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 21, 2019 21:24:39 GMT -5
I found my childhood milk cup, from the days when the Japanese stuff was just cheap. Then they studied Ford and Edison.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 22, 2019 8:40:25 GMT -5
My favorite the Seiko Sealion m55. Seiko makes nice watches. The Japanese make most everything very well with a proper attention to detail and quality. That says something to me about them which I admire them for. Toyota Landcruiser, 32 years, still running fine mostly. I have a Seiko 5 that is a self winder that can't be wound manually. I wore it out. I guess. It's cheaper to buy 3 more than to have it serviced. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 10:15:50 GMT -5
If you shake it and it tries to run and stops the grease has hardened on the main stem. So sometimes just a little heat is needed to get it flowing again. Everything in the 5 is metal or brass except for the O-rings for the back plate and the stem. There is also a piece of nylon that holds the movement and another piece for the glass/crystal. Did I say drop in boiling water or nuke it or do not use a heat gun. Do not use a heat gun.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 22, 2019 10:28:23 GMT -5
If you shake it and it tries to run and stops the grease has hardened on the main stem. So sometimes just a little heat is needed to get it flowing again. Everything in the 5 is metal or brass except for the O-rings for the back plate and the stem. There is also a piece of nylon that holds the movement and another piece for the glass/crystal. Did I say drop in boiling water or nuke it or do not use a heat gun. Do not use a heat gun. So..... You fix watches? |
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Oct 22, 2019 11:18:48 GMT -5
I stopped wearing watches when I stopped caring what "number time" it is. I use "where is the sun in the sky" time now, like our ancestors did.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 13:03:24 GMT -5
Yes Ron when my hands cooperate I have been known to fix a few. Of note some not so much. I know my old Seiko mechanicals but parts often outweigh the watch in value. Seiko has a way of fixing itself simply by wearing it as most of the time the grease has become hard. Most watches use about 1/2 or less of a drop of oil for everything.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 22, 2019 20:14:56 GMT -5
I stopped wearing watches when I stopped caring what "number time" it is. I use "where is the sun in the sky" time now, like our ancestors did. Isn't that groovy!?!?! Sorry, we are not holding supper for you. You can have what ever is left over after those who were here on time have eaten. When I tell my irrigators their water will be on at 0600, they best be ready. I do not want to be around if they are not. |
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Post by Penzaholic on Oct 23, 2019 12:28:12 GMT -5
This thread always reminds me to put my watch on.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Oct 23, 2019 12:37:11 GMT -5
 Generally you can , maybe not now, tell military training, not late even very early so they would be on time. I would be naked without a watch, used it in my job, how long to pressure tower, time filling up of tanks, when the lunch truck was coming, you know important stuff 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 15:13:23 GMT -5
Despite my love for a watch I don't wear one very often living on Tulsa time has its advantages.
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Post by monbla256 on Oct 23, 2019 16:33:01 GMT -5
I have 3 Orient Stars and they all are automatics that also wind. They all have exhibition backs and have movements that are beautifully polished or engine turned .They all keep better time than my chronometer grade Rolex Submariner I wear them more often than my Rolexes! My fave is a gold cased Star with an Explorer styled face with gold markers and numerals on a cream white face and a date window at 3. It's on a nice brown crocodile strap with dbl deployment catch. I would HIGHLY reccomend ANY Orient watch!
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Post by toshtego on Oct 23, 2019 17:22:33 GMT -5
Despite my love for a watch I don't wear one very often living on Tulsa time has its advantages. I understand the feeling. If Tulsa Time is anything like Taos Time, you betta foh-get about getting anything done. Sometimes, it seems that was what I was sent here to overcome. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 23, 2019 17:47:09 GMT -5
I keep trying to go onto Indian Time, but the world won't let me.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 23, 2019 17:51:14 GMT -5
I keep trying to go onto Indian Time, but the world won't let me. I remember Native American Time as "When it is ready, it will get done". A wise philosophy for people living close to nature, having little control over the world around them and not possessing a watch. |
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Generally you can , maybe not now, tell military training, not late even very early so they would be on time. I would be naked without a watch, used it in my job, how long to pressure tower, time filling up of tanks, when the lunch truck was coming, you know important stuff 🤣 