The insomniac thread

Up since 1:30 drinking coffee and having a pipe or three while playing Fallout 76. Hey you can level up fast when you don't sleep.

So far I’m up around the clock.....this is going to be a loooooooong day!!! Hope most Patchers are still sleeping 👌👍👍

    Now only women go through a change of life period. Hopefully soon a good night’s sleep will no longer elude you👍👍👍. Are you waking from pain issues??

    Have a much better day ahead!!!

   Should be back in bed trying to sleep by 1300 hours!!!

I can't even imagine what that feels like. I hope you can get some proper sleep soon, buddy.

Isn't that an interrogation tool also?
If I don't take a generic Ambian, I am up at 3AM every night

How do you function on so little sleep? I'm a mess if I don't get at least 6 hours every night.

Have you considered cannabis? Not only does it treat my chronic nerve pain by 95%, it helps me to sleep.
If one doesn't like the high of cannabis, source a full extract cannabis oil that is high in CBD.
CBD counteracts the psychoactive effect of THC. Not only does it treat neuropathic pain, it helps with pain in general & has an anti-inflammatory effect. (That's what's dramatically slowed the progression of my terminal illness)

Not even if it brings you relief & much needed sleep?
Without cannabis for my nerve pain, I'm really not sure how I'd cope, it's that distressing.

Cannabis is a master healing plant Ted. No one has ever died from cannabis. It does not cause any harm.
Cannabinoids are in mothers breast milk (It's why babies usually nod off after a feed)

Hemp was initially demonised by Big Business because it could not compete with mother nature. (Hemp is 3 times stronger than cotton, does not need pesticides, uses less water & less land than cotton. Most petrochemical products can be replaced from hemp & it's seed)
Then Big pHarma jumped on that band wagon because their liver damaging pHarmaceuticals couldn't compete with the then most widely prescribed medicine in the U.S. & most other civilised countries, cannabis elixir.

Seriously Ted, one does not get high on an oil that's high in CBD. That's why it was grown to give to kids with epilepsy. 

Think about it Ted. Get on-line & talk to patients our age who used a cannabis product for the first time in their lives. I've spoken to many & they're all grateful for the relief it brings without any negative side-effect.
I know that it will bring you much needed relief. (It wont turn you into a hippy, promise. lol)

Ted take a nap now.

The quality of sleep that I got when I still smoked was the best part of it. Actually, I would only smoke at night before I tried to go to sleep. If I needed to wake up I could, with no drowsiness. In my state it is still illegal and on top of that I have a conflict in my head because of my sobriety. But I do believe in the medicinal uses of both THC and CBD. 100% believer.

Now I've been taking meds for 2+ years to sleep. When they work, they work too good. When they dont, they have a stimulant like effect and then I cant sleep the rest of the night.

Because they "work too good" I'm currently weening myself off of them in 1/2 dose increments every month until it's out of my system. I have babies on the way, and being in a coma when I do sleep is not an option.

I imagine I'll be in this thread more in the next few months.

That's because it's not true; unless, of course, the mother uses marijuana.

There's a movement in the US to make various compounds found in marijuana - mostly CBDs - out to be some kind of miracle drug. The actual data that we have (actual data, not anecdotes) suggests that, for the most part, it's 21st century snake oil. The only condition that data shows CBD having a solid impact on is epilepsy, but much of that data is contradictory as well, and more work is needed.

None of this is to suggest I have any problem with people choosing to use marijuana, I just think it's important not to perpetuate myths about it. But, if every friend I have who uses it is any indication, it ABSOLUTELY helps with sleep . If I had sleep problems (and using marijuana wouldn't utterly destroy my career) I'd be all over it. It seriously is worth a try. No need to smoke it these days, if you find that distasteful. At least in places where it's legal, there's an endless assortment of chocolates, cookies etc. to choose from.

I WANT THE THC NOT THE CBD.

Yes it is important not to perpetuate myths so it would be wise for you to do some actual research before you continue to do so. (Here, I'll even help you out - www.kalapa-clinic.com/cannabinoids-in-breast-milk/ )
We have an endocannabinoid system that is designed to accept cannabinoids like a hand in glove.
cbdlifeuk.com - "Study confirms cannabinoids occur naturally in human breast milk."

"According to the findings of several major scientific studies, human breast milk naturally contains of the same cannabinoids found in the cannabis plant, which are vital for proper human development."
"Human breast milk is an abundant source of cannabinoids , a specific type of neuromodulatory lipid that basically teaches a newborn child how to eat by stimulating the suckling process. "

"Snake oil"? Oh, so the U.S. govt. got a patent on THC as a cancer cure as an exercise in futility huh?
The hundreds of thousands of patients (myself included) who've gained relief & or cure for conditions such as cancer, arthritis, ALS, epilepsy, IBS, MS, neuropathic pain, INSOMNIA, depression, anxiety, ADHD, HIV/AIDS symptoms, anorexia, inflammation, cachexia, chronic pain, migraines, glaucoma (Just part of a very long list) are enjoying what in your opinion? Some sort of placebo effect? Smh.

"various compounds"? Oh, you must be referring to isolates.
Big pHarma fears cannabis being recognised for what it is, a master healing plant, because they have much to lose. Prescriptions are way down in legal states and not just for opioid medications.
Big pHarma made $50 billion from chemotherapy products alone in one year (2016 IIRC)
On one hand BP spends many millions of $$$ annually bribing politicians to keep cannabis illegal, while on the other it's  pushing for control of the medical cannabis industry with isolates.
Isolates quickly lose efficacy after a few months of treatment because all 100+ cannabinoids work synergistically. (BP can then try to convince the ignorant that cannabis is ineffective after all) This is why a full extract cannabis oil is required. (FECO)

"Two papers published in JAMA Internal Medicine analyzing more than five years of Medicare part D & Medicaid prescription data, found that after states legalised weed, the number of opioid prescriptions and the daily dose of opioids went way down." ( www.statnews.com/2018/04/02/marijuana-legal-opioid-prescriptions/ )

U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions recently said that he was 'astonished' by claims that legal cannabis could solve the opioid crisis devastating the nation. However, a new study firmly linked legalized weed to decreased opioid abuse & overdoses."
"... painkiller abuse & addiction dropped on average by 23% in states that offered medical cannabis. ... one (study) published in the journal JAMA Internal medicine in 2014 that found a 25% decrease in opioid overdose deaths in states with with legal medical marijuana." ( www.newsweek.com )

Due to the fact that cannabis is a natural plant that can't be patented (Why Big pHarma is concentrating on research into isolates.) there's little money going into cannabis research. What research that is being conducted is in it's infancy.

Researchers have discovered that cannabis eliminates the brain prions that are said to be the cause of Alzheimers disease. Anyone who has taken the full 60 day cannabis oil protocol WILL be cured of cancer.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of little kids with severe epilepsy that did not respond to the highly dangerous, liver harming anti-epileptic medications, have gone from up to a hundred brain damaging seizures to either zero or minimal fitting with a CBD FECO. From severely debilitated to a normal happy functioning child.

This is an emotive subject for me. I KNOW that millions of people are suffering unnecessarily.
I've got Buergers disease. My surgeon (and the medical texts) said over 19 years ago; "100% of Buergers patients will suffer multiple amputations & death within 2-3 years after diagnosis."
I've known 12 other Buergers patients. They all suffered several amputations & died within 3 years after diagnosis.

They all put 100% faith in their doctors & did as they were told. All of them were taking a liver damaging anti-epileptic such as Epillim/Lyrica/Gapapentin (for neuropathic pain), they were all taking synthetic opiates such as Oxycodone or methadone  & many of them also took Prednisone.
When my stump healed after amputation, a nerve grew into a neuroma (a ganglion of nerve endings) which is the cause of excruciating nerve pain 'attacks' which would strike spasmodically & could last from 5 minutes to hours.

Rather than accepting an anti-epileptic that damages the liver, comes with terrible psychological side-effects & is rarely of much benefit, I take 2-3 pipes of cannabis daily. This eliminates 95% of the nerve pain.
What I didn't realise at the time was that cannabis has an anti-inflammatory effect that is stopping my peripheral blood vessels from occluding.
Without cannabis I would have died many years ago.

Choice of treatment is a very personal decision. Many are too frightened to take responsibility for their own health.
There's only so much that I can say. One can lead a horse to water & all that.
It's really frustrating & rather upsetting to watch others suffer unnecessarily & die around me.
Attitudes & opinions that are based on ignorance makes helping others so much harder because when it conflicts with the truth, it creates doubt & fear in the minds of those who are already doing it tough.
Just because it would not be your choice is no excuse. Please stop.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 

elric.........greatly appreciate your long well written post above. I will be doing some reading shortly.....I thank you!!!