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Post by puffy on Dec 19, 2018 17:07:45 GMT -5
My understanding is that once a pipe is smoked it loses value..Can money really be made buying pipes to be sold at a later date?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 17:31:43 GMT -5
In 25 years from now how many people will be smoking a pipe, let alone know what one is....other then a POT pipe.....JMHO.
I don’t know of any millennials that smoke a regular tobacco pipe.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Dec 19, 2018 17:34:46 GMT -5
I think what Ted has said is prophetic if not entirely accurate...I'm afraid our numbers are declining and will continue to decline due to the strong headwinds pushing tobacco to be the new ebola...bs that it may be, most people don't think past the headlines.
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Post by Legend Lover on Dec 19, 2018 17:49:33 GMT -5
My understanding is that once a pipe is smoked it loses value..Can money really be made buying pipes to be sold at a later date? I would find it hard to see how a used pipe fetches more than unused, unless it's been refurbished or has been owned by a celebrity. |
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Post by Mac on Dec 19, 2018 17:50:47 GMT -5
Well, yes, as there are dealers who make money buying and selling. But they seem to rely on turnover. As an investment to be held, it'd be a lot of work learning the ropes, buying rare estate pipes that are likely to appreciate enough to be worthwhile. So, in my book, pipes are not an investment, nor is tobacco.
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Dec 19, 2018 17:50:50 GMT -5
My understanding is that once a pipe is smoked it loses value..Can money really be made buying pipes to be sold at a later date? Just don't smoke it. Those unsmoked pipes from the 40s and 50s... Man. I love them, Medico, Kaywoodie, Grabow. The English and Italian pipes though pull huge value when they're unsmoked. Some even smoked I guess it depends on how often it was smoked and how it was maintained. |
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Dec 19, 2018 17:52:14 GMT -5
I think what Ted has said is prophetic if not entirely accurate...I'm afraid our numbers are declining and will continue to decline due to the strong headwinds pushing tobacco to be the new ebola...bs that it may be, most people don't think past the headlines. There was a weird resurgence in pipe smoking in the early 2010s on college campuses according to some of my younger buddies. I went to some graduations this year though and didn't see a single pipe anywhere. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 19, 2018 17:56:40 GMT -5
I bought a great NOS WDC Wellington Jumbo for $28.
It was $7.50 in 1954. The stock market would have been a better investment.
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Dec 19, 2018 18:01:30 GMT -5
I bought a great NOS WDC Wellington Jumbo for $28. It was $7.50 in 1954. The stock market would have been a better investment. I don't know why the American pipes don't command the NOS prices that the English brands do. I guess people just think English means better. But there were and still are a lot of really good American pipemakers out there. |
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Post by insignia100 on Dec 19, 2018 18:05:58 GMT -5
I bought a great NOS WDC Wellington Jumbo for $28. It was $7.50 in 1954. The stock market would have been a better investment. $7.50 in 1954 is equivalent to $69.51 in 2017, adjusting for inflation. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Dec 19, 2018 18:08:07 GMT -5
Well, yes, as there are dealers who make money buying and selling. But they seem to rely on turnover. As an investment to be held, it'd be a lot of work learning the ropes, buying rare estate pipes that are likely to appreciate enough to be worthwhile. So, in my book, pipes are not an investment, nor is tobacco. Err....have you noticed the prices on McClellands or Dunhills as far as brands go? Yeah, didn't think so...check it out, my good friend...it will knock you out of your chair. |
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Post by monbla256 on Dec 19, 2018 18:39:24 GMT -5
I'd invest in gold, silver or real estate, but not estate pipes as an investment. Ya buy 'em ta smoke 'em ! 
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 19, 2018 19:01:24 GMT -5
I bought a great NOS WDC Wellington Jumbo for $28. It was $7.50 in 1954. The stock market would have been a better investment. $7.50 in 1954 is equivalent to $69.51 in 2017, adjusting for inflation. Exactly. I was just too lazy to do the math. 🤠 |
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 19, 2018 19:02:39 GMT -5
Well, yes, as there are dealers who make money buying and selling. But they seem to rely on turnover. As an investment to be held, it'd be a lot of work learning the ropes, buying rare estate pipes that are likely to appreciate enough to be worthwhile. So, in my book, pipes are not an investment, nor is tobacco. Err....have you noticed the prices on McClellands or Dunhills as far as brands go? Yeah, didn't think so...check it out, my good friend...it will knock you out of your chair. Temporary bubble. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 19, 2018 19:04:40 GMT -5
I bought a great NOS WDC Wellington Jumbo for $28. It was $7.50 in 1954. The stock market would have been a better investment. I don't know why the American pipes don't command the NOS prices that the English brands do. I guess people just think English means better. But there were and still are a lot of really good American pipemakers out there. Long out of business, but if it said "Peterson" on it it would be a $450 pipe. |
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Post by daveinlax on Dec 19, 2018 19:13:57 GMT -5
This is a very general observation and IMO only. From when I got stated collecting pipes in the early 80's the hobby has totally flipped from Barling, Charatan, Dunhill to very slightly less for Castello and Caminetto to The Danes in the mid 90's. Now at least in the US the money is going to the artisan carvers. Back in the day the learning curve was long starting with the Pimo book now there are very few secrets with the internet and carving classes these guy are pretty good after a few tries. eBay really changed the market too.
For me it's a buyers market for what I'm after. In the 80's and early 90's I could have never competed for some of the pipes I have in the collection. I have made lots of money on a few pipes but I'm sure the collection is worth a lot less than I've paid but I'm in it for the fun.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 19:18:01 GMT -5
In 25 years from now how many people will be smoking a pipe, let alone know what one is....other then a POT pipe.....JMHO. I don’t know of any millennials that smoke a regular tobacco pipe. I know three millenials that smoke a pipe. Two occasionally and one fairly regularly. Of course, I gave them all their pipes and tobacco and showed them how. Regular pipe and tobacco gifts to all three are a true source of pleasure to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 19:21:06 GMT -5
Bad investment IMHO, others have a more solid proven ROI but it's more fun than a barrel full of monkeys.
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Post by qmechanics on Dec 19, 2018 19:27:54 GMT -5
In 25 years from now how many people will be smoking a pipe, let alone know what one is....other then a POT pipe.....JMHO. I don’t know of any millennials that smoke a regular tobacco pipe. We can do a limited experiment by starting a thread on the forum perhaps with an age range poll or asking directly are you a millenial pipe smoker? I have met quite a few at the KCPC show and know others. The YouTube community is also quite age diverse. Part of the problem in getting a personal gauge on the situation is availablity and/or the age gap. Some smokers in their later years, probably do not socialize with much younger folks and visa versa. For me I have friends across the spectrum. However I know only a few who smoke pipes and rarely do we get together to smoke (availability).Funny enough these local pipe smokers are all millennials. There was a thread on this topic that was active not that long ago that might be helpful. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 19:32:40 GMT -5
In 25 years from now how many people will be smoking a pipe, let alone know what one is....other then a POT pipe.....JMHO. I don’t know of any millennials that smoke a regular tobacco pipe. We can do a limited experiment by starting a thread on the forum perhaps with an age range poll or asking directly are you a millenial pipe smoker? I have met quite a few at the KCPC show and know others. The YouTube community is also quite age diverse. Part of the problem in getting a personal gauge on the situation is availablity and/or the age gap. Some smokers in their later years, probably do not socialize with much younger folks and visa versa. For me I have friends across the spectrum however I know only a few who smoke pipes and rarely do we get together to smoke (availability).Funny enough these local pipe smokers are all millennials. There was a thread on this topic that was active not that long ago that might be helpful. Good idea, start a poll👍👍 |
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Post by kbareit on Dec 19, 2018 19:36:19 GMT -5
I bought a great NOS WDC Wellington Jumbo for $28. It was $7.50 in 1954. The stock market would have been a better investment. I don't know why the American pipes don't command the NOS prices that the English brands do. I guess people just think English means better. But there were and still are a lot of really good American pipemakers out there. So I should just go ahead and smoke the NOS Yello Bole I found in an estate lot I just picked up? I'm not looking to make money on the estate pipes I pick up. Most are pretty nasty and I enjoy getting them and bringing them back to life and usable. I'm still trying to see what types of pipe I like to smoke and estate lots are an affordable way to find out. I have accumulated around 125 pipes so far. |
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Post by qmechanics on Dec 19, 2018 19:37:46 GMT -5
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Post by roadsdiverged on Dec 19, 2018 19:39:25 GMT -5
It also depends on the age group to be considered a millennial. By some I am considered one, by others I am in between. According to me, and my body, I am in my 50s
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 19:40:00 GMT -5
I don't know why the American pipes don't command the NOS prices that the English brands do. I guess people just think English means better. But there were and still are a lot of really good American pipemakers out there. So I should just go ahead and smoke the NOS Yello Bole I found in an estate lot I just picked up? I'm not looking to make money on the estate pipes I pick up. Most are pretty nasty and I enjoy getting them and bringing them back to life and usable. I'm still trying to see what types of pipe I like to smoke and estate lots are an affordable way to find out. I have accumulated around 125 pipes so far. Smoke that dang Yello Bole....I just Love’em!! Made with Kaywoodie seconds Briar. I own many, ALL are excellent smokers 👌👍👍 |
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Post by qmechanics on Dec 19, 2018 19:40:13 GMT -5
We can do a limited experiment by starting a thread on the forum perhaps with an age range poll or asking directly are you a millenial pipe smoker? I have met quite a few at the KCPC show and know others. The YouTube community is also quite age diverse. Part of the problem in getting a personal gauge on the situation is availablity and/or the age gap. Some smokers in their later years, probably do not socialize with much younger folks and visa versa. For me I have friends across the spectrum however I know only a few who smoke pipes and rarely do we get together to smoke (availability).Funny enough these local pipe smokers are all millennials. There was a thread on this topic that was active not that long ago that might be helpful. Good idea, start a poll👍👍 Be my guest.... Depending on the participation it might prove interesting. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 19:41:47 GMT -5
I still stand behind my comment in the thread/link you posted. |
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Post by kbareit on Dec 19, 2018 19:43:35 GMT -5
So I should just go ahead and smoke the NOS Yello Bole I found in an estate lot I just picked up? I'm not looking to make money on the estate pipes I pick up. Most are pretty nasty and I enjoy getting them and bringing them back to life and usable. I'm still trying to see what types of pipe I like to smoke and estate lots are an affordable way to find out. I have accumulated around 125 pipes so far. Smoke that dang Yello Bole....I just Love’em!! Made with Kaywoodie seconds Briar. I own many, ALL are excellent smokers 👌👍👍 I have one that's never been smoked and 6 others that need cleaned up. What's the best way to clean the bowl up? I don't want to damage it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 19:54:06 GMT -5
Smoke that dang Yello Bole....I just Love’em!! Made with Kaywoodie seconds Briar. I own many, ALL are excellent smokers 👌👍👍 I have one that's never been smoked and 6 others that need cleaned up. What's the best way to clean the bowl up? I don't want to damage it. The one’s that have been smoked and the honey coated chamber has a cake build up, clean like any other pipe. My well smoked Yello-Bole pipes are kept looking good, but that thin coat of “ honey “ is no longer. They are made from well aged briar, that’s what makes them smoke so darn good👍 |
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Post by kbareit on Dec 19, 2018 19:57:30 GMT -5
I have one that's never been smoked and 6 others that need cleaned up. What's the best way to clean the bowl up? I don't want to damage it. The one’s that have been smoked and the honey coated chamber has a cake build up, clean like any other pipe. My well smoked Yello-Bole pipes are kept looking good, but that thin coat of “ honey “ is no longer. They are made from well aged briar, that’s what makes them smoke so darn good👍 I'l have to pull them out this weekend and get them in the clean up rotation. I also have a half dozen Kay Woodies I'll have to get started on. |
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Post by qmechanics on Dec 19, 2018 20:55:54 GMT -5
I still stand behind my comment in the thread/link you posted. That's fine, our opinions on this matter are conjecture and not really all that important in the scope of things. |
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