Revolvers

I just saw a 44 spl adapter for 12 and 20 ga break action single barrel shotguns. 8" rifled insert. That length would boost the fps of a warm special load to 250gr Keith to 1450 fps. Or end to end of a grizzly. I have no reason to believe that it would beat a sabot slug though.

Personal defense closeuup when you don't want to use buckshot for some reason?
I believe that the original idea was to be able to scavenge all kinds of ammo after the SHTF. One company sells a 6 pack of different calibers for 425 dollars. That's 7 different kinds of ammo that you can use in your one gun when everyone else is done to rocks and machetes. 12,20,and 410,plus 9mm, 38Spl and 45ACP for instance.

even tumbling it would get much more penetration. Probably more than if it hit point first. Rememberthat the current military ammo is designed to tumble. 300 AAC 220gr subsonic tumbles if it hits a t-shirt. But you have to allow for the 3 minutes to reload. Like I said, they are only better than no gun at all.

I think I recall seeing a 32acp insert for 30-06 once. That might be interesting.

Tikka makes a good rifle.  Good luck to your son.

Forgive me, Pat but I think the 1903 was long gone from production before the release of the first stainless guns. I believe the S&W model 60 was the first production firearm available in stainless steel in 1965. Is the 1903 you are referring to in the white, or maybe nickel? The 1903 ended production in 1945.

A nickled 1903 would be a sweet little shooter.  Still intend to have a blued 1903 one day. John Moses Browning had an eye for design and a mind for smart engineering.

I have a friend who has a 1903. It was one of the first guns I shot. He inherited it from his dad, who left all his reloading equipment to me. He has a dozen old rare pistols and some pretty decent rifles too. Never shoots them and won't part with him. He is kind of your sort in a way. He is retired, but even before he went on multiple rock hunting trips every. He sells rare gems as a hobby now.

The only stainless handgun I ever desired was the AMT Longslide Hardballer. I was on the verge of buying one but the guy at the store said that stainless guns would wear out if you shot them much because of the galling. I was shooting 200 rounds of 45 a week at the time so I passed. I shouldn't have listened.

I don't think that they ever had a problem with the stainless revolvers, just the autos. I am a luddite as I have a passion for blue steel and Walnut. But it's a common affliction for us seniors. Even my AR 15 is wrapped in wood. I am looking at a shiny bright J-frame for the wife as she won't take care of the finish.

Yes, the 1903/1908 are the best looking of the small autos. Not just looks, reliable and reasonably accurate with a 4 inch barrel. I would love to own one. They are rare enough to command some high prices now.

Yes Sir, blue steel & wood.
Never knew what a luddite was until a lady called me that a couple years ago & I smiled & goggled it when she left.

I never bristle at "Luddite". It is expected among us very old, isolated and weird.

Blued steel, walnut or other hardwood. That is the way. I never cared for the light reflecting properties of stainless steel or nickle plating although I had a Colt Commander which had a nice dull finish. It was no thing of beauty but shot well. My Colt Cobra is nickle plated but I do not expect to creep about crime scenes in the dark with it.

It's amazing how ahead of its day this gun was.  It is still a great carry gun, but you obviously have to watch what ammo you put in it.  Obviously, no +P+ ammo!!