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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 19:56:10 GMT -5
I have stainless revolvers, blued revolvers, evil black polymer pistols and even muzzleloaders. Love them all for what they are. My polymer nines go bang every time, have awesome triggers and have not failed me once. They have the styling and aesthetic appeal of a hammer. In contrast, my blued revolvers all wear wood grips, and are works of industrial art. They also have never failed to go bang. I am not a fan of stainless 1911s or other weird things like a case hardened 1911. Wood furniture on an AR is surprisingly good looking to my eye. Mine sports OD polymer, however.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 9, 2019 20:06:58 GMT -5
I have stainless revolvers, blued revolvers, evil black polymer pistols and even muzzleloaders. Love them all for what they are. My polymer nines go bang every time, have awesome triggers and have not failed me once. They have the styling and aesthetic appeal of a hammer. In contrast, my blued revolvers all wear wood grips, and are works of industrial art. They also have never failed to go bang. I am not a fan of stainless 1911s or other weird things like a case hardened 1911. Wood furniture on an AR is surprisingly good looking to my eye. Mine sports OD polymer, however. I built the AR as a hobby/protest after I retired. It's 5.56 and I have never shot it. A1 style with a scope. |
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Post by simnettpratt on Sept 9, 2019 22:51:14 GMT -5
There are exceptions...  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 9, 2019 22:55:35 GMT -5
There are exceptions... Could you take a sharper picture and post it please? 👿👿😁😎🤠 |
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Post by simnettpratt on Sept 10, 2019 0:20:05 GMT -5
No kidding. And that ain't plastic  |
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Post by trailboss on Sept 10, 2019 1:11:29 GMT -5
I have stainless revolvers, blued revolvers, evil black polymer pistols and even muzzleloaders. Love them all for what they are. My polymer nines go bang every time, have awesome triggers and have not failed me once. They have the styling and aesthetic appeal of a hammer. In contrast, my blued revolvers all wear wood grips, and are works of industrial art. They also have never failed to go bang. I am not a fan of stainless 1911s or other weird things like a case hardened 1911. Wood furniture on an AR is surprisingly good looking to my eye. Mine sports OD polymer, however. I built the AR as a hobby/protest after I retired. It's 5.56 and I have never shot it. A1 style with a scope. You need to get out and run it through it's paces! Not a build on my part, a Colt LE 6920 SOCOM M4 A1, with an ACOG...a real tack driver, almost boring to shoot..more a testament to the accuracy by the builder than the ability of the user.   |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 10, 2019 9:56:42 GMT -5
I built the AR as a hobby/protest after I retired. It's 5.56 and I have never shot it. A1 style with a scope. You need to get out and run it through it's paces! Not a build on my part, a Colt LE 6920 SOCOM M4 A1, with an ACOG...a real tack driver, almost boring to shoot..more a testament to the accuracy by the builder than the ability of the user. I really didn't build it to shoot, although it should shoot very well. Good parts built on a Ruger frame. I have a nice Savage bolt action 5.56/223 with a new target scope that I haven't had time to shoot. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 10, 2019 10:15:30 GMT -5
I was looking at the Caspian site and they have a Damascus frame and slide. You can even specify the Damascus pattern that you prefer. Kind of expensive but with a high polish it could be really fine. As a side note, I am now considered a domestic terrorist in San Francisco, as if I would ever go there again. They can't fall into the Pacific soon enough for me. I consider the city a haven for traitors.
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Post by puffy on Sept 10, 2019 14:55:10 GMT -5
I have a friend who carries a gun..Today someone called the police on him for threatening them..All he did was by accident place his hand on his gun..Nothing was done but the police told him to be careful about placing his hand on his gun because it can indeed be taken as a threat.
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Post by toshtego on Sept 10, 2019 15:29:23 GMT -5
I have a friend who carries a gun..Today someone called the police on him for threatening them..All he did was by accident place his hand on his gun..Nothing was done but the police told him to be careful about placing his hand on his gun because it can indeed be taken as a threat. Hand on gun signals intent. |
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Post by trailboss on Sept 10, 2019 15:43:09 GMT -5
Defensive display varies from state to state, it makes sense to know the letter of the law in the state you reside in, also with states having reciprocity that you travel and carry in.
Arizona’s is pretty unambiguous
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Post by bigwoolie on Sept 10, 2019 16:06:47 GMT -5
Defensive display varies from state to state, it makes sense to know the letter of the law in the state you reside in, also with states having reciprocity that you travel and carry in. Arizona’s in pretty unambiguous All very true. However, it is also true in our country today that there is a cross-section of people who are not happy unless they are unhappy. I carry strong side OWB. If I stop what I'm doing and place my hands on my hips absentmindedly to contemplate my next move, and my hand unintentionally lands for a moment on or near my weapon, there are people today who, if they witness that, would rejoice at the opportunity to "get triggered", and find a way to play the victim and draw attention to themselves. As an ex-LEO who has responded to gun calls, that sounds to me a little like what happened here, based on what little info has been given. Otherwise, the police would have reacted a bit differently. I am a proud carrier of the dreaded disease "toxic masculinity" and personally feel like modern society needs a good spanking. |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 10, 2019 19:28:29 GMT -5
When I carry, it is mostly concealed in a front pocket and you can be certain I have held the grip in me wee hand a few times while talking to people I did not trust. The times I went about holstered my hands were away when talking with people usually thumb hooked in belt between buckle and holster.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 11, 2019 19:50:17 GMT -5
I got involved in a slight incident today and after I ended up openly carrying in front of a large group of people. All approved though they were disappointed that I didn't actually shoot the individual involved. Texas scares me sometimes.
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Post by toshtego on Sept 11, 2019 21:22:56 GMT -5
I got involved in a slight incident today and after I ended up openly carrying in front of a large group of people. All approved though they were disappointed that I didn't actually shoot the individual involved. Texas scares me sometimes. I am glad to read the incident ended up with you reporting on it. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 11, 2019 21:28:49 GMT -5
I got involved in a slight incident today and after I ended up openly carrying in front of a large group of people. All approved though they were disappointed that I didn't actually shoot the individual involved. Texas scares me sometimes. I am glad to read the incident ended up with you reporting on it. Unarmed crazy bum shoplifter. I decided that whatever he stole wasn't worth it even though I was acting for the manager. He was willing to call my bluff and ran. |
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Post by trailboss on Sept 11, 2019 22:43:21 GMT -5
I got involved in a slight incident today and after I ended up openly carrying in front of a large group of people. All approved though they were disappointed that I didn't actually shoot the individual involved. Texas scares me sometimes. I am glad to read the incident ended up with you reporting on it. Not bad advice..the system is keyed upon the first person making the call being legally the victim..Houstonian Joe Horn is good example. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversyThere was a case in Tempe Arizona some years ago, where the true victim neutralized the threat that was generated by the scumbags...they called the cops with "A man with a gun" claim...it costed the accosted quite a bit before it was resolved and he was a ward of the state for awhile. Thankfully since then, Arizonan's have supported the right people and have changed laws that favor the victims over the perps. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 12, 2019 7:56:50 GMT -5
There was another case where a guy caught some burglars leaving his neighbors home with a TV. Shot him in the back with a Desert Eagle 50. He was was DRT. It stank but he was not convicted. Laws have changed since then and the police have been supportive in general. But all of the above was in my mind. I just decided it wasn't a death penalty crime in my book. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. You should have seen him, his eyes. More like a cornered raccoon than human. Just sad all around. I should have just taken a picture.
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Post by toshtego on Sept 12, 2019 8:41:43 GMT -5
Using deadly force in a property crime is morally reprehensible and illegal in some places. The old question, "Is your car stereo worth more than some teenager's life?"
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 12, 2019 9:46:30 GMT -5
Using deadly force in a property crime is morally reprehensible and illegal in some places. The old question, "Is your car stereo worth more than some teenager's life?"
I have mixed feelings about that. Most of the teenagers doing the property crimes are also armed and don't hesitate to shoot babies and pregnant women. If they are outside of my house breaking in my truck it will be very unfortunate. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 12, 2019 9:47:51 GMT -5
In light of the recent developments, I will be returning the 44 revolver to truck duty in place of the 9mm.
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Post by bigwoolie on Sept 12, 2019 11:06:59 GMT -5
There is an AR behind the back seat of my truck, and a .45acp on myself or in my go-bag, and a 44mag by my bed.
The value of the stereo isn't the question. The thief's mental state, full intentions, possible reactions to being confronted, quality of partners-in-crime and level of personal armament are. If I catch someone raiding my truck, I will confront them. I will be armed. If he leaves, I'll let him go. If he comes at me or reaches for his waist band, I will shoot him. The price of the stereo be damned.
But I fully agree, to shoot a simple thief who is running away with a tv and no physical threat is unsupportable.
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Post by toshtego on Sept 12, 2019 11:46:17 GMT -5
Using deadly force in a property crime is morally reprehensible and illegal in some places. The old question, "Is your car stereo worth more than some teenager's life?" I have mixed feelings about that. Most of the teenagers doing the property crimes are also armed and don't hesitate to shoot babies and pregnant women. If they are outside of my house breaking in my truck it will be very unfortunate. In these parts, thieves-in-the-night have not been armed. They differ from the armed robber of which we have relatively few. Realize also this is a small community. Those thieves are all known to me. "Manulito and Rodney, at it again, eh?" |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 12, 2019 11:50:02 GMT -5
In light of the recent developments, I will be returning the 44 revolver to truck duty in place of the 9mm. I guess Houston requires that kind of preparation. Sorry for that. Out here, there is a Krag Carbine behind my seat in the truck. Mostly for finishing off animals injured on the highway. Hopefully, it will never be used for anything else. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 12, 2019 15:47:26 GMT -5
There is an AR behind the back seat of my truck, and a .45acp on myself or in my go-bag, and a 44mag by my bed. The value of the stereo isn't the question. The thief's mental state, full intentions, possible reactions to being confronted, quality of partners-in-crime and level of personal armament are. If I catch someone raiding my truck, I will confront them. I will be armed. If he leaves, I'll let him go. If he comes at me or reaches for his waist band, I will shoot him. The price of the stereo be damned. But I fully agree, to shoot a simple thief who is running away with a tv and no physical threat is unsupportable. The driveway defense device is a 300 AAC AR "pistol" with 30 rounds. 190 gr Hornaday subsonic expanding. Backup is a Star 30M 17 round 9mm battle pistol with 124gr +P Gold Dots. 12ga is in the mail for the son when I'm not home. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 12, 2019 15:49:12 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings about that. Most of the teenagers doing the property crimes are also armed and don't hesitate to shoot babies and pregnant women. If they are outside of my house breaking in my truck it will be very unfortunate. In these parts, thieves-in-the-night have not been armed. They differ from the armed robber of which we have relatively few. Realize also this is a small community. Those thieves are all known to me. "Manulito and Rodney, at it again, eh?" Yes, very different. I'll bet you can't match the 7 babies murdered in Houston this year. And I mean 5 and under. |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 12, 2019 16:31:30 GMT -5
There is an AR behind the back seat of my truck, and a .45acp on myself or in my go-bag, and a 44mag by my bed. The value of the stereo isn't the question. The thief's mental state, full intentions, possible reactions to being confronted, quality of partners-in-crime and level of personal armament are. If I catch someone raiding my truck, I will confront them. I will be armed. If he leaves, I'll let him go. If he comes at me or reaches for his waist band, I will shoot him. The price of the stereo be damned. But I fully agree, to shoot a simple thief who is running away with a tv and no physical threat is unsupportable. The driveway defense device is a 300 AAC AR "pistol" with 30 rounds. 190 gr Hornaday subsonic expanding. Backup is a Star 30M 17 round 9mm battle pistol with 124gr +P Gold Dots. 12ga is in the mail for the son when I'm not home. Appears you are ready for anything. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 10:40:44 GMT -5
In these parts, thieves-in-the-night have not been armed. They differ from the armed robber of which we have relatively few. Realize also this is a small community. Those thieves are all known to me. "Manulito and Rodney, at it again, eh?" Yes, very different. I'll bet you can't match the 7 babies murdered in Houston this year. And I mean 5 and under. That's probably exceeded by Chicago on most weekends. |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 13, 2019 10:53:15 GMT -5
I thank the Almighty I left Los Angeles 21 years ago for this tiny hamlet. While this is no sanctuary and we have our problem people, at least I know them all by name. So far we have been free of roving bands of marauders, although that could happen.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 13, 2019 11:28:34 GMT -5
Appears you are ready for anything.[/quote] I just like guns. Most of what I said they are for is just the excuse to own them. I would be better off with just a S&W Model 59 and a 22 target rifle. I really have no "need" for the custom Siamese Mauser in 45/90 with the loads that match the 404 Jeffrey., but it makes such a nice bang. 🥴😁🤠 |
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