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Post by puffy on Sept 13, 2019 12:09:13 GMT -5
I don't profess the following to be true but I recently read these things according to a survey.Two thirds of the guns being legally bought are bought by folks who already own guns,and only one third of houses have guns in them..NOW..I lived in Detroit for a lot on years.I know that there's a tremendous number of guns in Detroit and I'm sure most other places that this survey doesn't account for.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 13, 2019 13:18:18 GMT -5
I don't profess the following to be true but I recently read these things according to a survey.Two thirds of the guns being legally bought are bought by folks who already own guns,and only one third of houses have guns in them..NOW..I lived in Detroit for a lot on years.I know that there's a tremendous number of guns in Detroit and I'm sure most other places that this survey doesn't account for. I don't know anyone who doesn't own more than one gun per person in the house. I have one friend who has 3 guns but has never shot one. All the women I know have been overhead discussing concealed carry purses. That said, there are a LOT of people that I don't know. Most of the friends and family have large collections of hunting rifles with a few handguns thrown in. The 30 women that I worked with in the office all carried, and they weren't "girl guns" either. 40 S&W was average. The gun ban crowd is going to run into a hard stop at some point when folks find out that THEIR rights are being infringed. People want the gangs and nuts disarmed, but not the regular people. The states with the harshest gun laws do not enforce them against criminals who use guns. If a Chicago gangsta is caught with a gun he will be out of jail in hours without even bail. If an honest person is caught carrying a firearm in Chicago he will spend time in jail and pay a huge fine. You know who is responsible. The same people who are responsible for the worthless education system, homeless on the streets and the breakdown of society in general. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 17:00:01 GMT -5
A lovely thing, a revolver is.  |
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Post by bigwoolie on Sept 13, 2019 17:06:13 GMT -5
A lovely thing, a revolver is. Oh, my. That is a thing of true beauty. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 13, 2019 17:26:14 GMT -5
A lovely thing, a revolver is. Did you just get this one? |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 13, 2019 17:26:53 GMT -5
Did anyone ever engrave a Glock?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 17:44:54 GMT -5
A lovely thing, a revolver is. Did you just get this one? Boy, do I wish that was mine. Ran across the image on another forum. |
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Post by instymp on Sept 13, 2019 18:04:51 GMT -5
A lovely thing, a revolver is. Makes you warm & fuzzy all over! Just sit & stare. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 19:27:37 GMT -5
Did anyone ever engrave a Glock? Indeed they did, Ron.  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 13, 2019 19:54:16 GMT -5
A travesty!
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Post by toshtego on Sept 13, 2019 21:38:16 GMT -5
Appears you are ready for anything. I just like guns. Most of what I said they are for is just the excuse to own them. I would be better off with just a S&W Model 59 and a 22 target rifle. I really have no "need" for the custom Siamese Mauser in 45/90 with the loads that match the 404 Jeffrey., but it makes such a nice bang. 🥴😁🤠[/quote] I like them, too, but mostly historic ones. I bet that Siamese Mauser is fun to shoot. LOL! |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 14, 2019 0:05:11 GMT -5
It's pretty tame with factory ammo (Hornaday FTX). I haven't had a chance to shoot it with the hot loads yet. I am afraid that the Bishop stock will split. I have a laminated stock that I will be installing as soon as I get my shop finished. And the thickest Limbsaver they make. I just found some loads that are for the Siamese Mauser only. 65k psi. 400 gr Speer at 2389fps. I think I will only load one of those.
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Post by toshtego on Sept 14, 2019 9:45:18 GMT -5
A lovely thing, a revolver is. A beautiful gunpiece to be sure. The Bluesman Muddy Waters is reported to have been on stage singing when a rat appeared in front of him on stage. Muddy drew a revolver from his waistband and shot it dead with one round. I always imagined Muddy's revolver to look something like this one. |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 14, 2019 17:36:06 GMT -5
It's pretty tame with factory ammo (Hornaday FTX). I haven't had a chance to shoot it with the hot loads yet. I am afraid that the Bishop stock will split. I have a laminated stock that I will be installing as soon as I get my shop finished. And the thickest Limbsaver they make. I just found some loads that are for the Siamese Mauser only. 65k psi. 400 gr Speer at 2389fps. I think I will only load one of those. 400 grain projectile at 2,389 FPS from 90 grains of fffg?  ? Yeah, that is going to demonstrate the law of action/reaction. Well, it is only a shoulder. You can order a replacement these days. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 14, 2019 19:20:41 GMT -5
It's pretty tame with factory ammo (Hornaday FTX). I haven't had a chance to shoot it with the hot loads yet. I am afraid that the Bishop stock will split. I have a laminated stock that I will be installing as soon as I get my shop finished. And the thickest Limbsaver they make. I just found some loads that are for the Siamese Mauser only. 65k psi. 400 gr Speer at 2389fps. I think I will only load one of those. 400 grain projectile at 2,389 FPS from 90 grains of fffg? ? Yeah, that is going to demonstrate the law of action/reaction. Well, it is only a shoulder. You can order a replacement these days. No black powder. It's more like 63 grains of 3031or 54 grains of IMR 4198. The Mauser weighs 10 pounds with the scope. With the new stock it will probably be 11+. |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 14, 2019 19:52:41 GMT -5
400 grain projectile at 2,389 FPS from 90 grains of fffg? ? Yeah, that is going to demonstrate the law of action/reaction. Well, it is only a shoulder. You can order a replacement these days. No black powder. It's more like 63 grains of 3031or 54 grains of IMR 4198. The Mauser weighs 10 pounds with the scope. With the new stock it will probably be 11+. Makes sense to go smokeless. That is about a .45-70 load. Still, enough recoil to hold you attention. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 14, 2019 20:42:59 GMT -5
No black powder. It's more like 63 grains of 3031or 54 grains of IMR 4198. The Mauser weighs 10 pounds with the scope. With the new stock it will probably be 11+. Makes sense to go smokeless. That is about a .45-70 load. Still, enough recoil to hold you attention. People who have shot those loads call them all kinds of things. Bruiser is about the nicest. 😜😁🤠 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 20:47:44 GMT -5
That would be a really hot 45/70 load! I used to load 405gr bullets to about 1700 in my 1878 Sharps Borchardt. About a ten pound rifle. Did not want to have any more velocity than that, to be honest. Not because of recoil sensitivity, but because I didn't want to stress an old rifle. A Borchardt is plenty strong, but I just take it easy on the really old stuff. Would hate to find out the hard way that there was an old flaw or a fracture I could not see. I have read some stories where shooters were grievously injured or even killed when older rifle receivers have failed. In one case it was a Swedish Mauser that killed a very well known and experienced shooter. I know the Siamese action is mega strong, but be careful, Ron.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 14, 2019 20:50:43 GMT -5
The 45/90 is really for BP express type loads, 300 to 350 grains. Heavier bullets will probably go in 45/70 cases because of the magazine length. The H&R Buffalo Classic is supposed to be able to handle the same loads, but I wouldn't try it myself. For one thing it has a 19th century stock design with a lot of drop and a metal buttplate. It weighs 9.5 lbs with the 16oz mercury buffer in the stock and the 32" heavy barrel. I plan on loading some 425 grain hard cast at less than 1400fps for it and I might rethink that.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 14, 2019 20:52:54 GMT -5
That would be a really hot 45/70 load! I used to load 405gr bullets to about 1700 in my 1878 Sharps Borchardt. About a ten pound rifle. Did not want to have any more velocity than that, to be honest. Not because of recoil sensitivity, but because I didn't want to stress an old rifle. A Borchardt is plenty strong, but I just take it easy on the really old stuff. Would hate to find out the hard way that there was an old flaw or a fracture I could not see. I have read some stories where shooters were grievously injured or even killed when older rifle receivers have failed. In one case it was a Swedish Mauser that killed a very well known and experienced shooter. I know the Siamese action is mega strong, but be careful, Ron. Awww, Don! The action is only 116 years old! They don't make them like that anymore. 🤣🥴😁🤠 |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 14, 2019 21:02:28 GMT -5
The 45/90 loaded with black powder under a 400 grain lead pill will give about 1300fps. Shoot through a Buffalo end to end they say. I got my numbers mixed up with the 45/120 I was thinking of putting in the single shot. Then I thought again. 400 grain over smokeless is 2050 in 45/70 and 2190 in the 44/90.
All way more than needed. These were younger man's dreams and I'm older than that now.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 14, 2019 21:03:56 GMT -5
One thing everyone agrees on is that your shoulder will give out long before the Siamese Mauser.
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Post by toshtego on Sept 14, 2019 21:24:54 GMT -5
One thing everyone agrees on is that your shoulder will give out long before the Siamese Mauser. Was that meant as Tiger medicine? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 22:23:01 GMT -5
My days of tooth rattling rifle loads is over. I find myself enjoying cartridges like 6.5 Grendel, 30-30, 7.62x39, etc more and more the older I get. They are a joy to shoot and in a pinch can take game for me. I am not much of a hunter though. Birds occasionally. I am now considering getting a couple of kayaks for fishing. I thoroughly enjoyed my time on the water yesterday.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 15, 2019 10:02:30 GMT -5
My days of tooth rattling rifle loads is over. I find myself enjoying cartridges like 6.5 Grendel, 30-30, 7.62x39, etc more and more the older I get. They are a joy to shoot and in a pinch can take game for me. I am not much of a hunter though. Birds occasionally. I am now considering getting a couple of kayaks for fishing. I thoroughly enjoyed my time on the water yesterday. I would love to find an article from 1895 about the reception of the new fangled 30 Winchester. It is still a fantastic cartridge. Of course I shoot it out of a 1894 just as God and Oliver and John Moses intended. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 15, 2019 10:03:58 GMT -5
One thing everyone agrees on is that your shoulder will give out long before the Siamese Mauser. Was that meant as Tiger medicine? The Siamese Mauser 45/70 is an American thing. It has caught on in Africa too. |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 15, 2019 10:09:09 GMT -5
Was that meant as Tiger medicine? The Siamese Mauser 45/70 is an American thing. It has caught on in Africa too. I must have miss read your OP. I thought the cartridge was .45-90, similar to our old Buffalo rounds. I know .45-70 well enough. Had a Model 1886 and and a Marlin 1895. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 10:15:39 GMT -5
My days of tooth rattling rifle loads is over. I find myself enjoying cartridges like 6.5 Grendel, 30-30, 7.62x39, etc more and more the older I get. They are a joy to shoot and in a pinch can take game for me. I am not much of a hunter though. Birds occasionally. I am now considering getting a couple of kayaks for fishing. I thoroughly enjoyed my time on the water yesterday. I would love to find an article from 1895 about the reception of the new fangled 30 Winchester. It is still a fantastic cartridge. Of course I shoot it out of a 1894 just as God and Oliver and John Moses intended. I love 30-30, Ron. I shoot it in a 1885 High Wall. My rifle is from the late 1890's. A real soft shooting tack driver. I can run it pretty fast if I have to. Fast enough to put a second shot on target in a couple of seconds anyway. |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Sept 15, 2019 10:39:51 GMT -5
Son was zeroing his Tikka LR at 150 yds three inch circle   |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 11:03:19 GMT -5
Son was zeroing his Tikka LR at 150 yds three inch circle Excellent! |
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