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Post by toshtego on Nov 6, 2020 15:13:09 GMT -5
It’s not my pistola, but I’d say 7.5”. A standard “cavalry” length for the Model P. I would love to by an Uberti replica but not in the budget, alas! |
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 6, 2020 15:56:35 GMT -5
It’s not my pistola, but I’d say 7.5”. A standard “cavalry” length for the Model P. I would love to by an Uberti replica but not in the budget, alas! You can get those marked by Co. of Custer’s 7th. |
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Post by toshtego on Nov 6, 2020 15:58:46 GMT -5
I would love to by an Uberti replica but not in the budget, alas! You can get those marked by Co. of Custer’s 7th. That is so and they are real purty! |
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Post by Kevin Keith on Nov 6, 2020 22:41:09 GMT -5
plainsman...how long is that barrel? It's 7.5" |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 6, 2021 16:19:39 GMT -5
Found a decent example of the old Colt Commando, .38 Special. The 1942 Military version of the Official Police revolver. Lesser finishing expense. This one has been nickel plated. It could also use new grips. The prices was far below what the Commandos usually sell for because it is not in original condition and has a former owner's names inscribed. Needs new grips, too. I am partial to the Colt Army, Official Police, Commando model and felt that this would be a good match for my Colt Cobra also Nickle plated.  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 6, 2021 16:22:44 GMT -5
Found a decent example of the old Colt Commando, .38 Special. The 1942 Military version of the Official Police revolver. Lesser finishing expense. This one has been nickel plated. It could also use new grips. The prices was far below what the Commandos usually sell for because it is not in original condition and has a former owner's names inscribed. Needs new grips, too. I am partial to the Colt Army, Official Police, Commando model and felt that this would be a good match for my Colt Cobra also Nickle plated. Good gun if the price is right. |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 6, 2021 16:25:23 GMT -5
$475 + fees for shipping, transfer and credit card..
Usually, the Colt Commando is $1,000 to $1,200. At least the ones I have seen on Gunbroker.
I think this one takes a lanyard ring. I might have to look for one. Getting forgetful in my old age... "Wher'd I leave that danged Colt!?!?!"
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Post by Lews Therin Kinslayer on Sept 7, 2021 2:23:16 GMT -5
When I was a cop, we were required to carry 40cal. I carried a Glock 22 and it's baby brother off-duty (the 27, I believe). I can't google weapons on my work computer to verify models. Just tried and, well, I got blocked and I'll get a talking to later... After all that, most of the time, I just dropped a little S&W 642 Airweight in a pocket holster. Super light, concealed hammer (so no snagging), and damn near unbreakable. After dealing with M16s, M4s, M249 SAW, M240B, etc. and their incessant malfunctions, I knew I wanted something that *just worked*. Putting a box of ammo through this thing at the range left your hand a mess, but it's a great little weapon.  |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 7, 2021 6:04:35 GMT -5
^^^ Can't do much better than those S&W five shot alloy frame .38s. No exposed hammer is an advantage. The piece which is always with you. I feel the same way about my old Colt. I have a draw from a pocket holster technique that avoids snags but is not foolproof.  |
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Post by Plainsman on Sept 7, 2021 8:08:53 GMT -5
My S&W 342 ("TiLight") weighs 12 ounces, loaded. Carry much, shoot little! Been pretty much superceded now by the Sig Sauer P365XL with Romeo reddot. Never liked Colt DAs because of the poor DA, compared to a Smith. (Always some Colt fan who will pipe up with "Not true! I have one as good as any Smith!" Bull. None of them can prove it. The exalted Python never showed up on the PPC circuit. Best they could do was the sometimes seen "Smython"— S&W action with a Python barrel. Even that failed when the wonder barrel couldn't outshoot the barrels on Smiths.)
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Post by toshtego on Sept 8, 2021 5:15:46 GMT -5
My S&W 342 ("TiLight") weighs 12 ounces, loaded. Carry much, shoot little! Been pretty much superceded now by the Sig Sauer P365XL with Romeo reddot. Never liked Colt DAs because of the poor DA, compared to a Smith. (Always some Colt fan who will pipe up with "Not true! I have one as good as any Smith!" Bull. None of them can prove it. The exalted Python never showed up on the PPC circuit. Best they could do was the sometimes seen "Smython"— S&W action with a Python barrel. Even that failed when the wonder barrel couldn't outshoot the barrels on Smiths.) Never had a problem with Colt's DA. Best shooting revolver I owned was a Colt New Service in .45 Long Colt. Never owed a Python but did have a Trooper in .357 Magnum. Not my favorite. To each their own preference. |
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Post by Plainsman on Sept 8, 2021 8:45:21 GMT -5
You are right, John. People don't have "problems" with Colt DAs, because they don't shoot them DA. The New Service is a notorious offender. (Many State Police forces used the NS in 45 Colt before they went over to 357s. They were on the surplus market cheap in the 50s.) These revolvers were almost always shot SA b/c that was the only way to hit anything with them beyond point-blank ranges. The DA on a Colt "stacks" badly. That is, it gets stiffer as it gets close to release. Unless you have the hands of the Incredible Hulk that's bad news for accuracy. I had 7-1/2" bbl'd NS in 44-40 and was never able to use it effectively in DA. So I might as well have had a Single Action Army (the Model P)— which would have been easier to shoot in SA than the New Service. I have not handled the newer Colt DA guns, but unless they completely re-did the innards I suspect the story is much the same.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 8, 2021 11:06:54 GMT -5
I've never shot a double action Colt. I have shot several S&Ws, a Model 57 being the first. My favorite was the Combat Masterpiece 357 that my FIL received as a retirement gift from his co-workers. I regret that I didn't accept it when he tried to give it to me. I have several revolvers. A couple of Rossis that shoot like Smiths because they are copies built in Smith equipment, a NAA, and a Heritage 22lr/22 Mag that actually I got for my son. I have Rossi R85104 that looks like a Colt Diamondback except for the small frame Smith round grip. It is a pretty sweet gun. My favorite revolver is the 1858 Remington. Best shooting revolver ever. But I shoot autos much better than revolvers. They both have their purpose.
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Post by CrustyCat on Sept 8, 2021 11:10:21 GMT -5
I have a 9 shot 22 long rifle revolver. Fun plinker to shoot. Heavy barrel, very accurate. I also have a 38 special snub nose I inherited from my mom. Can't remember the name off hand. Made in Brazil I think. Very loud.
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Post by toshtego on Sept 8, 2021 11:40:01 GMT -5
You are right, John. People don't have "problems" with Colt DAs, because they don't shoot them DA. The New Service is a notorious offender. (Many State Police forces used the NS in 45 Colt before they went over to 357s. They were on the surplus market cheap in the 50s.) These revolvers were almost always shot SA b/c that was the only way to hit anything with them beyond point-blank ranges. The DA on a Colt "stacks" badly. That is, it gets stiffer as it gets close to release. Unless you have the hands of the Incredible Hulk that's bad news for accuracy. I had 7-1/2" bbl'd NS in 44-40 and was never able to use it effectively in DA. So I might as well have had a Single Action Army (the Model P)— which would have been easier to shoot in SA than the New Service. I have not handled the newer Colt DA guns, but unless they completely re-did the innards I suspect the story is much the same. I certainly never had problems shooting any of my Colt DAs. Detective, Agent, Cobra, New Service, Trooper, Lawman. Never had a problem qualifying at the range. Like with many things, training helps. I do not see them as "better" shooting than S&W's DA. I prefer the Colt medium frame, fixed sight .38s to S&W by virtue of frame size, grip, and barrel weight. |
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Post by Plainsman on Sept 8, 2021 14:28:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess I should get some training.
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Post by toshtego on Sept 8, 2021 21:37:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess I should get some training. Never too late to start, LOL! I meant training with the specific model Colt. Sounds like you have spent much of your time with the Smith Brothers. |
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Post by Plainsman on Sept 8, 2021 21:46:09 GMT -5
I have. Mostly b/c I've found that Smith revolvers are superior to Colt revolvers, in so many ways. Anyone who spends time with both usually comes to the same conclusion. But to each his own.
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Post by toshtego on Sept 8, 2021 22:17:26 GMT -5
I have. Mostly b/c I've found that Smith revolvers are superior to Colt revolvers, in so many ways. Anyone who spends time with both usually comes to the same conclusion. But to each his own. You seem to be heavily invested in the superiority of S&W and the inferiority of Colt's Manufacturing Company. My experience has been different. I know and have known many law officers and others who prefer and depend upon Colt's Manufacturing Company in the past including my own relatives. You claim that "anyone who spends time with both.." seems a bit inflated but if you want to believe that it is your privilege. I am not a Colt salesman, LOL! Both companies have and still produce some fine revolvers. Specific models made by each have their advantages. |
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Post by Plainsman on Sept 8, 2021 22:29:31 GMT -5
I never said a word about the company. I can only talk about what I know and have experienced in 65 years of being around guns and gun people, instructing people in handguns (only 40 years of that), and competing nationally. You and I are not going to have any discord about this, as that would be silly. I know what I know and you know what you know. Be well, and don’t shoot your eye out!  |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 8, 2021 22:53:16 GMT -5
I never said a word about the company. I can only talk about what I know and have experienced in 65 years of being around guns and gun people, instructing people in handguns (only 40 years of that), and competing nationally. You and I are not going to have any discord about this, as that would be silly. I know what I know and you know what you know. Be well, and don’t shoot your eye out! You are not critical of the company, just their products. OK. I guess there is a distinction there. Thank you for crediting me with some experience, however misguided it must have been! I will do my best not to peer down the barrel to see if the the bullet is coming out as expected. ("Hey Moe, watch this!!!") |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 9, 2021 10:08:31 GMT -5
I think that we can all agree that the Colt Single Action Army is one of the best revolvers of all time.
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Post by Plainsman on Sept 9, 2021 10:45:37 GMT -5
Certainly the most famous. And its original cartridge is still one of the absolute best fight-stoppers around, even after 149 years. Hard to top that.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 9, 2021 22:02:54 GMT -5
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Post by Plainsman on Sept 9, 2021 22:13:35 GMT -5
Definitely a big nostalgia hit. And magazine design sure has changed. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 9, 2021 22:38:15 GMT -5
I remember being a kid in Woolworth and trying to pick up a $10 Model 98 Mauser. My mom said no!
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Post by Gypo on Sept 9, 2021 23:13:54 GMT -5
My S&W 342 ("TiLight") weighs 12 ounces, loaded. Carry much, shoot little! Been pretty much superceded now by the Sig Sauer P365XL with Romeo reddot. Never liked Colt DAs because of the poor DA, compared to a Smith. (Always some Colt fan who will pipe up with "Not true! I have one as good as any Smith!" Bull. None of them can prove it. The exalted Python never showed up on the PPC circuit. Best they could do was the sometimes seen "Smython"— S&W action with a Python barrel. Even that failed when the wonder barrel couldn't outshoot the barrels on Smiths.) Never had a problem with Colt's DA. Best shooting revolver I owned was a Colt New Service in .45 Long Colt. Never owed a Python but did have a Trooper in .357 Magnum. Not my favorite. To each their own preference. But you got problems with beavers so put down that Colt and pick up that Remington with scope and green night light and a good seat and start fixing the root of the problem. Bang it is fixed. |
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Post by toshtego on Sept 10, 2021 13:14:50 GMT -5
Never had a problem with Colt's DA. Best shooting revolver I owned was a Colt New Service in .45 Long Colt. Never owed a Python but did have a Trooper in .357 Magnum. Not my favorite. To each their own preference. But you got problems with beavers so put down that Colt and pick up that Remington with scope and green night light and a good seat and start fixing the root of the problem. Bang it is fixed. Mossberg Slugster with Number 4 Buckshot or 00 is what I have. Not sure I want to spend all evening sitting around waiting for these cagey critters. I have done that before at their old pond. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 10, 2021 15:07:53 GMT -5
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Post by Plainsman on Sept 10, 2021 15:34:45 GMT -5
Weirdest shooting stance I ever saw. What's he sighting across, the butt? Also looks like the ergo on the grip frame has moved decidedly toward the S&W K and L frames.
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