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Post by toshtego on Nov 23, 2022 17:01:34 GMT -5
In the past, I have not done well with my LCR in .38…short radius and hard to pick up the front sight. It is not a gun problem, it is an operator problem that I hope to solve, and feel confident as a backup gun in an ankle holster. I just have to put the time in. Practice, practice, practice. That is the only way. As you know... |
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 23, 2022 19:59:29 GMT -5
One can have TOO MUCH “practice.” You have to know when to lay back and let it simmer.
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Post by toshtego on Nov 23, 2022 20:21:19 GMT -5
One can have TOO MUCH “practice.” You have to know when to lay back and let it simmer. I get the value of reflection. |
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Post by don on Nov 23, 2022 22:59:38 GMT -5
30M is a beast. I used to have a Model B, with West German police markings and the correct holster with cleaning rod and spare mag. It was a sweet shooter, but would only feed ball reliably. HPs were generally not reliable in it. My Model B has fed Gold Dot 124 grain +P Fine. I haven't tried any other hollow points in it. The 30M eats anything and puts it in the same hole. One of the most boring guns ever. It could very well depend on the timeframe it was produced. I could have had work done on the ramp to get mine to feed HPs reliably, but that would have been silly on a $300 antique. I had better options for defensive purposes anyway. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 23, 2022 23:09:21 GMT -5
My Model B has fed Gold Dot 124 grain +P Fine. I haven't tried any other hollow points in it. The 30M eats anything and puts it in the same hole. One of the most boring guns ever. It could very well depend on the timeframe it was produced. I could have had work done on the ramp to get mine to feed HPs reliably, but that would have been silly on a $300 antique. I had better options for defensive purposes anyway. If I had paid more than 200 for it I would not be happy. As is, I didn't expect it to handle hollow points, just serendipity |
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 24, 2022 10:08:23 GMT -5
CAREFUL use of a Dremel on the feed ramp can solve a lot of problems. CARELESS work (over enthusiasm) can cause many more.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 24, 2022 13:04:07 GMT -5
CAREFUL use of a Dremel on the feed ramp can solve a lot of problems. CARELESS work (over enthusiasm) can cause many more. I did a lot of feed ramps and trigger jobs 40 years ago. I would have to find my gunsmith school books to remember what to do. |
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Post by don on Nov 24, 2022 23:42:17 GMT -5
It wasn’t that long ago. Ron I was expecting you to say you remembered when they were $49.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 24, 2022 23:54:34 GMT -5
It wasn’t that long ago. Ron I was expecting you to say you remembered when they were $49. I do. |
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Post by don on Nov 25, 2022 23:20:32 GMT -5
My second year of production Colt Trooper. (1954)  |
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 26, 2022 9:55:15 GMT -5
That’s a gem, Don. I bet those grips feel really good. While we are on the subject of rearin’ ponies, here is my 1936 Official Police Heavy Barrel. When I got it, on a lark, it was in poor shape. Mechanically perfect but cosmetically a mess. Cheap plastic grips. Much holster wear but the bore looked like nothing had ever been sent down it. Hardly any blue left and splotchy at that. Sent it off for some remedial work and slapped a coupla slabs of Wyoming elk on her and voilá.  |
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Post by don on Nov 26, 2022 12:46:33 GMT -5
That’s a gem, Don. I bet those grips feel really good. While we are on the subject of rearin’ ponies, here is my 1936 Official Police Heavy Barrel. When I got it, on a lark, it was in poor shape. Mechanically perfect but cosmetically a mess. Cheap plastic grips. Much holster wear but the bore looked like nothing had ever been sent down it. Hardly any blue left and splotchy at that. Sent it off for some remedial work and slapped a coupla slabs of Wyoming elk on her and voilá. Nicely done, Bob. Looks great with the elk slabs. The grips on my Trooper were ugly Herretts with a thumb rest and a shiny finish. I sanded off the rest and refinished them with Danish oil. They now fit my large hands. |
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 26, 2022 14:00:59 GMT -5
Herrett made some nice stocks, but they also made some clunkers. Ya done good.
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Post by don on Nov 26, 2022 15:17:29 GMT -5
Herrett made some nice stocks, but they also made some clunkers. Ya done good. Thanks. I was kind of shooting for a Jordan style grip. |
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 26, 2022 15:46:07 GMT -5
I think you made it, Don. That wee square butt effect might even be better.
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Post by toshtego on Nov 26, 2022 19:52:43 GMT -5
Nice Colt's, Don and Bob!
I had a Trooper from the early 1960s an I loved it.
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 26, 2022 22:36:32 GMT -5
An interesting take on the Official Police. In 1930 (may have been ‘29) S&W introduced their 38/44. A 38 Special on their N-frame heavyweight. because of the frame it could take a lot more oomph than the 38 Special provided. The ammo could reach 1100 or 1200FPS with 158 grain bullets. It was “the most powerful handgun in the world” at the time, and S&W billed it that way. A precursor to the 357 Magnum that would come out in 1935, thanks to work by Elmer Keith and others. S&W finally called it the “38/44 Outdoorsman” and it was a hit. Colt immediately produced ads claiming that their Official Police could take the 38/44 ammo since it was built on a 41 frame. That ammo was bad news for lighter guns, not built on a heavy enough frame. When the 357 came out they lengthened the case by 1/10th inch so it could NOT be chambered in any 38 Special revolver. Without that danger the 38 case would have handled the 357 loads, as basically it already was with the 38/44 “high speed” ammo. And, John, the Commando was a variant of the OP.
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 9, 2022 10:49:29 GMT -5
Took over a year to find one but it’s finally on the way. Yeah, I know— it’s not a revolver, unless I learn how to twirl it.   |
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Post by trailboss on Dec 9, 2022 11:17:13 GMT -5
Nice!
My last Springfield Armory acquisition was 3 years ago, I upgraded the trigger and extractor, but still have yet to put a round through it.
I know that the striker fired handguns by them are made in Croatia, is everything else still made in Illinois?
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 9, 2022 11:39:27 GMT -5
I know this one is. Also I think their ARs are, too.
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 9, 2022 14:04:32 GMT -5
I like the new Hi-Powers made in Turkey by Tisas. I just have way too many handguns that don't get shot to buy another one. Always wanted one though. If Tisas decides to bring back a Colt 1908 I will change my mind.
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 9, 2022 14:07:56 GMT -5
Heresy to say it, but Springfield’s redesign of the Grande Puissance is a better pistol than the original by a good margin. I don’t have mine yet to verify the many reviewers who have said so but am looking forward to it.
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 9, 2022 14:14:07 GMT -5
Heresy to say it, but Springfield’s redesign of the Grande Puissance is a better pistol than the original by a good margin. I don’t have mine yet to verify the many reviewers who have said so but am looking forward to it. The same has been said about the Tisas. The only complaint is that some original parts don't fit because they put in larger pins in problem areas. |
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Post by toshtego on Dec 9, 2022 14:43:12 GMT -5
An interesting take on the Official Police. In 1930 (may have been ‘29) S&W introduced their 38/44. A 38 Special on their N-frame heavyweight. because of the frame it could take a lot more oomph than the 38 Special provided. The ammo could reach 1100 or 1200FPS with 158 grain bullets. It was “the most powerful handgun in the world” at the time, and S&W billed it that way. A precursor to the 357 Magnum that would come out in 1935, thanks to work by Elmer Keith and others. S&W finally called it the “38/44 Outdoorsman” and it was a hit. Colt immediately produced ads claiming that their Official Police could take the 38/44 ammo since it was built on a 41 frame. That ammo was bad news for lighter guns, not built on a heavy enough frame. When the 357 came out they lengthened the case by 1/10th inch so it could NOT be chambered in any 38 Special revolver. Without that danger the 38 case would have handled the 357 loads, as basically it already was with the 38/44 “high speed” ammo. And, John, the Commando was a variant of the OP. Thank you for that history. The COLT OP model, maintained heft lacking in the4 S&W Model 10 or M&P. I would not fire magnum equivalent loads in mine and am careful about +P, as well. I remember the old S&W print ads for the ".38/44. They liked to market it to "western lawmen needing a little more punch". Colt would later raise the stakes by chambering the larger frame New Service in .38 Special. That was a big hit with law agencies. |
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Post by toshtego on Dec 9, 2022 14:44:41 GMT -5
I, too, admire the Springfield Armory JMB Model 1935 and would buy one. Congratulations on your perseverance.
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Post by briarbuck on Dec 12, 2022 12:48:43 GMT -5
Inherited an older Stainless Colt 38 stubby. Haven't shot it yet. Just sits under the mattress.
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 12, 2022 13:00:19 GMT -5
Inherited an older Stainless Colt 38 stubby. Haven't shot it yet. Just sits under the mattress. You should probably test it before you need it. |
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Post by toshtego on Dec 12, 2022 13:24:08 GMT -5
Why not purchase a box of target ammo and give it a try?
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 13, 2022 10:27:20 GMT -5
Revolvers are pretty fool-proof. (But there’s always some fool…) I don’t recommend relying on a bedside gun that hasn’t been range tested, even a revolver. If you’re not used to it, or at least know what to expect, the blast and flash from a snubby, especially fired indoors, can be quite disconcerting. Let us hope none of us ever have to find out.
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 13, 2022 13:38:39 GMT -5
Revolvers are pretty fool-proof. (But there’s always some fool…) I don’t recommend relying on a bedside gun that hasn’t been range tested, even a revolver. If you’re not used to it, or at least know what to expect, the blast and flash from a snubby, especially fired indoors, can be quite disconcerting. Let us hope none of us ever have to find out. When I fired my 44 mag snubbie in the indoor range insulation fell from the ceiling and the manager outside the range fell off his stool. Glad I didn't fire it in the house! 😁 |
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