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Post by trailboss on Mar 26, 2023 17:46:21 GMT -5
A beautiful stable that you have there, Bob! I wish I had gotten into the wheel gun game years ago, the ones I would like to get now command prices the would ensure domestic chaos instead of domestic tranquility. That is one way to make certain guns do not get into the hands of people. I wonder...? đ Good point, Hoss! |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 15, 2023 15:48:54 GMT -5
Whilst in line at the Supermarket yesterday, next to me an old gent with a nickel plated Colt New Service strapped on. Nice to see an old Colt still in the service of self defense. Those market parking lots can be tough. A shop lifter was being arrested as I entered the store. Took a squad of our rollie poly officers to effect the arrest. They could easily have belly bumped him into submission to subdue him without leaving a mark.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 15, 2023 16:08:07 GMT -5
I just ordered some Underwood 158 grain 38 Special +P ammo for the Rossi 85204. That's a 4" 6 shot double action that is modeled on the Colt Diamondback with the vent rib. I still haven't set up for reloading so I got this for a decent price. These are nickel plated with a coated Keith bullet at 1250 fps. That's 357 territory. We'll see.
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Post by don on Apr 15, 2023 17:38:01 GMT -5
A Diamondback style rib on mechanicals descended from S&W. I had never thought about it but some of the Rossis are kind of Brazilian Smolts.
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 15, 2023 18:55:26 GMT -5
I just saw Henry is bringing out a small edition of revolvers. If Imperato means it when he says âMade in America or not made!â Then this is very big news. I wish him well and NO sarcasm meant or implied.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 15, 2023 18:59:36 GMT -5
A Diamondback style rib on mechanicals descended from S&W. I had never thought about it but some of the Rossis are kind of Brazilian Smolts. It's my 3rd Rossi revolver and I've never had any complaints. |
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Post by urbino on Apr 15, 2023 19:06:02 GMT -5
I just saw Henry is bringing out a small edition of revolvers. If Imperato means it when he says âMade in America or not made!â Then this is very big news. I wish him well and NO sarcasm meant or implied. If they make one in .22WMR, I'm on it. |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 15, 2023 19:16:01 GMT -5
I just ordered some Underwood 158 grain 38 Special +P ammo for the Rossi 85204. That's a 4" 6 shot double action that is modeled on the Colt Diamondback with the vent rib. I still haven't set up for reloading so I got this for a decent price. These are nickel plated with a coated Keith bullet at 1250 fps. That's 357 territory. We'll see. That is a lot for a .38 Special revolver to handle. |
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 15, 2023 19:27:57 GMT -5
I just ordered some Underwood 158 grain 38 Special +P ammo for the Rossi 85204. That's a 4" 6 shot double action that is modeled on the Colt Diamondback with the vent rib. I still haven't set up for reloading so I got this for a decent price. These are nickel plated with a coated Keith bullet at 1250 fps. That's 357 territory. We'll see. That is a lot for a .38 Special revolver to handle. Underwood is challenging Buffalo Bore these days. Indeed, that is a VERY hot 38 Special load. I donât go nearly that hot for 38s, just shift up to the 357. That would be approaching abuse for my K-frames, but I tend to baby them. I bought a Rossi 38 for my dad. Did some internal work on it and was impressed with it. Not a Smith but not a half-bad knock-off. Responded very well to action work. |
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 15, 2023 19:29:19 GMT -5
I just saw Henry is bringing out a small edition of revolvers. If Imperato means it when he says âMade in America or not made!â Then this is very big news. I wish him well and NO sarcasm meant or implied. If they make one in .22WMR, I'm on it. 357/38 for now. I figger itâll be quite a good while before you see any Henry 22 revolvers. |
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Post by urbino on Apr 15, 2023 19:56:01 GMT -5
If they make one in .22WMR, I'm on it. 357/38 for now. I figger itâll be quite a good while before you see any Henry 22 revolvers. But they'd be such good companions for their .22 lever guns. The WMR, especially. |
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 15, 2023 20:13:12 GMT -5
357/38 for now. I figger itâll be quite a good while before you see any Henry 22 revolvers. But they'd be such good companions for their .22 lever guns. The WMR, especially. True. But I think heâd be better off from a marketing standpoint to offer a lighter DAO revolver in 9mm. Maybe with an innovative full-moon clip system. 3â bbl with a super-smooth DA and nightsights. |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 15, 2023 21:13:30 GMT -5
That is a lot for a .38 Special revolver to handle. Underwood is challenging Buffalo Bore these days. Indeed, that is a VERY hot 38 Special load. I donât go nearly that hot for 38s, just shift up to the 357. That would be approaching abuse for my K-frames, but I tend to baby them. I bought a Rossi 38 for my dad. Did some internal work on it and was impressed with it. Not a Smith but not a half-bad knock-off. Responded very well to action work. While I have never examined Rossi internal parts, they seemed a well made weapon upon the surface. |
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Post by don on Apr 16, 2023 7:04:38 GMT -5
A Diamondback style rib on mechanicals descended from S&W. I had never thought about it but some of the Rossis are kind of Brazilian Smolts. It's my 3rd Rossi revolver and I've never had any complaints. I wasnât suggesting anything is wrong with them. I have had several good Taurus handguns. Smith, Colt and Ruger have had eras where quality control slips and an occasional problem slips out. I would guess Rossi is about the same as Taurus, being owned by them now. |
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Post by don on Apr 16, 2023 7:23:38 GMT -5
I just saw Henry is bringing out a small edition of revolvers. If Imperato means it when he says âMade in America or not made!â Then this is very big news. I wish him well and NO sarcasm meant or implied. Interesting. Birdshead or square grip frame versions. Unshrouded ejector, fixed sights and brass grip frames. A strange mix of features, but definitely interesting. If I was to go for a birdshead gripped revolver, it would be this configuration of a Uberti Colt clone in .357.  |
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 16, 2023 8:01:39 GMT -5
Birdshead gripframes donât appeal to me much. Ihave a little 3.5â Cimarron in 38 Special with such. It gets little love.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 16, 2023 10:08:34 GMT -5
I just ordered some Underwood 158 grain 38 Special +P ammo for the Rossi 85204. That's a 4" 6 shot double action that is modeled on the Colt Diamondback with the vent rib. I still haven't set up for reloading so I got this for a decent price. These are nickel plated with a coated Keith bullet at 1250 fps. That's 357 territory. We'll see. That is a lot for a .38 Special revolver to handle. That's what I thought. It's rated for +P, but in limited amounts. I asked the pressure and they replied 18,500 PSI. That's under the SAAMI 20k PSI. It's only 40 rounds and I will probably never shoot it other than testing. It's an option if we ever get a chance to go hiking in the wild places. |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 16, 2023 10:09:13 GMT -5
It's my 3rd Rossi revolver and I've never had any complaints. I wasnât suggesting anything is wrong with them. I have had several good Taurus handguns. Smith, Colt and Ruger have had eras where quality control slips and an occasional problem slips out. I would guess Rossi is about the same as Taurus, being owned by them now. In the mid 1970s I bought a Taurus .357 with a six inch barrel and adjustable sights. The bluing was well done, the wood grips high grade and it shot superbly. I do not know why I sold it??? |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 16, 2023 10:11:46 GMT -5
Birdshead gripframes donât appeal to me much. Ihave a little 3.5â Cimarron in 38 Special with such. It gets little love. I have only shot my NAA mini with the birdshead grip, but I would like to try a full-size one. I wonder about the 45 and the birdshead grips. Seems like a handful. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 16, 2023 10:15:31 GMT -5
I wasnât suggesting anything is wrong with them. I have had several good Taurus handguns. Smith, Colt and Ruger have had eras where quality control slips and an occasional problem slips out. I would guess Rossi is about the same as Taurus, being owned by them now. In the mid 1970s I bought a Taurus .357 with a six inch barrel and adjustable sights. The bluing was well done, the wood grips high grade and it shot superbly. I do not know why I sold it??? I had a 38 Special Rossi with the 3" barrel that was great. Pointed naturally and surprisingly accurate. I think I sold it because concealed carry wasn't an option back then in Houston. |
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 16, 2023 10:17:56 GMT -5
Back in the day Rossi was considered a âcheap Taurus.â The one I bought for my dad was to be strictly a night-table gun. But when I checked it out more closely I was impressed with the overall quality. I did the action work on it that I do with Smiths and it responded quite well. (Also showed me who its granddad was!) One problem was that the reversed hollow-base wadcutters I loaded for it keyholed at 7 yards. I abandoned that plan and went to straight wadcutters which shot just fine. I never tested it for absolute accuracy. No need. When dad died I gave it to my ex and sheâs pretty good with it. She carried it as her woods-gun until she got the Ruger Blackhawk 45 Colt.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 16, 2023 10:18:04 GMT -5
It's my 3rd Rossi revolver and I've never had any complaints. I wasnât suggesting anything is wrong with them. I have had several good Taurus handguns. Smith, Colt and Ruger have had eras where quality control slips and an occasional problem slips out. I would guess Rossi is about the same as Taurus, being owned by them now. Both my current Rossis have beautiful bluing, especially the 44 Mag snubby. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 16, 2023 10:20:30 GMT -5
Back in the day Rossi was considered a âcheap Taurus.â The one I bought for my dad was to be strictly a night-table gun. But when I checked it out more closely I was impressed with the overall quality. I did the action work on it that I do with Smiths and it responded quite well. (Also showed me who its granddad was!) One problem was that the reversed hollow-base wadcutters I loaded for it keyholed at 7 yards. I abandoned that plan and went to straight wadcutters which shot just fine. I never tested it for absolute accuracy. No need. When dad died I gave it to my ex and sheâs pretty good with it. She carried it as her woods-gun until she got the Ruger Blackhawk 45 Colt. I tried reversed wadcutters in my S&W Model 52 and they keyholed. It's a bad idea that sounded good to somebody. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 16, 2023 10:49:57 GMT -5
I just looked at the Henry revolver and I like it. It's a double action that has the frame of a single action, but with a swing-out cylinder. The straight grip is shaped like a Rossi double action grip. I like it and I bet it shoots.
If they offer it in a 44, I'm in. My Ruger Blackhawk 44 Special will be up for sale.
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Post by toshtego on Apr 16, 2023 14:43:17 GMT -5
I just looked at the Henry revolver and I like it. It's a double action that has the frame of a single action, but with a swing-out cylinder. The straight grip is shaped like a Rossi double action grip. I like it and I bet it shoots. If they offer it in a 44, I'm in. My Ruger Blackhawk 44 Special will be up for sale. Their website indicates .38/.357 for now. |
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 16, 2023 15:21:25 GMT -5
Back in the day Rossi was considered a âcheap Taurus.â The one I bought for my dad was to be strictly a night-table gun. But when I checked it out more closely I was impressed with the overall quality. I did the action work on it that I do with Smiths and it responded quite well. (Also showed me who its granddad was!) One problem was that the reversed hollow-base wadcutters I loaded for it keyholed at 7 yards. I abandoned that plan and went to straight wadcutters which shot just fine. I never tested it for absolute accuracy. No need. When dad died I gave it to my ex and sheâs pretty good with it. She carried it as her woods-gun until she got the Ruger Blackhawk 45 Colt. I tried reversed wadcutters in my S&W Model 52 and they keyholed. It's a bad idea that sounded good to somebody. Itâs an idea that works in some guns and not in others. I have a couple that shoot that load very accurately out to about 20 yards then the accuracy falls apart. And I have guns that donât shoot it well at all, as already noted. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 16, 2023 15:36:57 GMT -5
I tried reversed wadcutters in my S&W Model 52 and they keyholed. It's a bad idea that sounded good to somebody. Itâs an idea that works in some guns and not in others. I have a couple that shoot that load very accurately out to about 20 yards then the accuracy falls apart. And I have guns that donât shoot it well at all, as already noted. A soft solid wadcutter will expand if you kick it up to 900 fps. |
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Post by Plainsman on Apr 16, 2023 17:16:11 GMT -5
When a hollow base WC hits resistance the skirts tend to fold forward making a sort of disk. This is why they make pretty good loads when you donât a lot of penetration, like thru walls and such. Wadcutters are very much ignored for SD purposes and that is unfortunate. Lead bullets in general do an excellent job. Keith designs are downright deadly as well as extremely accurate.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 16, 2023 21:49:23 GMT -5
When a hollow base WC hits resistance the skirts tend to fold forward making a sort of disk. This is why they make pretty good loads when you donât a lot of penetration, like thru walls and such. Wadcutters are very much ignored for SD purposes and that is unfortunate. Lead bullets in general do an excellent job. Keith designs are downright deadly as well as extremely accurate. Matt's bullets makes hollow points in both hard and soft for 38/357 and 44 Special/44 mag velocities. Those 38 +P I got are Keith design. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 25, 2023 21:06:44 GMT -5
I just heard that Bart Skelton, Skeeter's son and a New Mexico State Trooper and border patrol officer in his own right, has died in Deming NM. I have a couple of his books on the shelf that I have yet to get to, but I've read hundreds of his articles. I think he was 62.
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