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Post by Plainsman on Nov 18, 2023 23:23:40 GMT -5
Yes, I have a flattop in 44 Special also. A very heavy little gat. I actually think that flattop is a good bit stronger then the NMV. I wouldn’t push it, no need to with the 44 Special. What a great cartridge it is.
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Post by don on Nov 18, 2023 23:31:56 GMT -5
I had the flat top Bisley Blackhawk in 44 Special. I do miss it, but am much better with my 3” GP100 in the same cartridge.
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Post by don on Nov 18, 2023 23:35:27 GMT -5
I would like one of these in 44 Magnum. I would load down for most shooting or just run Specials in it.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 18, 2023 23:39:10 GMT -5
Yes, I have a flattop in 44 Special also. A very heavy little gat. I actually think that flattop is a good bit stronger then the NMV. I wouldn’t push it, no need to with the 44 Special. What a great cartridge it is. Yep. Love the 44 Spl, but I won't shoot it again until I put the Hogue rubber grips on it. I don't have the money to change the grip frame or get it customized. I have tried 4 different grips, including some custom grips. It is a heavy sucker. It seems more muzzle heavy than a Smith 29 6 inch. That might be the problem for me.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 18, 2023 23:43:36 GMT -5
I had the flat top Bisley Blackhawk in 44 Special. I do miss it, but am much better with my 3” GP100 in the same cartridge. I've never shot the Bisley grip. I don't have any problems with double actions. Or other single actions. I have shot a Colt 45 and Remington 1858 44 with no issues. It's just this Ruger. I also shot one of the very old 3-screw Ruger 357s and I don't recall any particular problems with it either.
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 19, 2023 10:14:37 GMT -5
The Bisley flattops in 44 Special have been frequently lauded as “available” Keith #5s. As far as I know Ruger never made that claim but in fact they are pretty darn close. I always wanted a #5 so I got a 4-5/8 and a 5-1/2. Heavy and pleasant to shoot. They take Skeeter’s load in their stride. I think Elmer would have been happy with them— since, basically he designed them.
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Post by don on Nov 19, 2023 10:31:41 GMT -5
The Bisley flattops in 44 Special have been frequently lauded as “available” Keith #5s. As far as I know Ruger never made that claim but in fact they are pretty darn close. I always wanted a #5 so I got a 4-5/8 and a 5-1/2. Heavy and pleasant to shoot. They take Skeeter’s load in their stride. I think Elmer would have been happy with them— since, basically he designed them. It’s why I had one, Bob. I always admired the #5 layout. In a time of tight finances, I sold my Bisley. I do miss it, but I have other 44 Specials I am equally fond of and at least one that I shoot much more consistently with.
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 19, 2023 11:16:44 GMT -5
Yes, the 44 Special can be addictive, particularly if you are a handloader.I have the two Bisleys, a NM flattop, a 624 6-1/2”, and a Lew Horton 3” 24. I guess that mean I like the cartridge. Long may it live!
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Post by don on Nov 19, 2023 12:00:35 GMT -5
My 624 Very dirty from the 700X loads I was shooting that day.
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Post by don on Nov 19, 2023 12:02:48 GMT -5
The Lew Horton I sold 4 years ago.
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 19, 2023 12:07:56 GMT -5
Dang.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 19, 2023 12:30:04 GMT -5
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Post by toshtego on Nov 19, 2023 13:00:49 GMT -5
I had a Model 1926 S&W .44 Special. Stolen in 2005 and never recovered. Sad.
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Post by don on Nov 19, 2023 13:04:46 GMT -5
I had a Model 1926 S&W .44 Special. Stolen in 2005 and never recovered. Sad. Very sad.
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 19, 2023 13:44:21 GMT -5
Just one more exemplum to show that theft should be a capital offense.
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Post by trailboss on Nov 19, 2023 13:47:25 GMT -5
Just one more exemplum to show that theft should be a capital offense. I saw your earlier post about someone “borrowing” a revolver and it never came back. Should be a double hanging with whoever took John’s…. I just do not understand how people can be that way.
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 19, 2023 13:55:43 GMT -5
Yes, it was an original 1851 Navy in very good condition. Theft is the fundamental crime: you have, I want, I take. Letting it flourish brings down all standards until there are none.
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Post by don on Nov 19, 2023 14:13:31 GMT -5
I guess my hands are catcher’s mitts after all. My 44 looks a little small. Or is it, just right?
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 19, 2023 14:19:47 GMT -5
I would say JUST RIGHT considering how a SA should be handled and shot. You need to be able to curl that pinkie under the front of the stock.
Does that Uberti have a frame-mounted firing pin?
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Post by toshtego on Nov 19, 2023 15:50:43 GMT -5
Just one more exemplum to show that theft should be a capital offense. In the Islamic world the hand which stole is chopped off. Brutal but effective.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 19, 2023 17:09:21 GMT -5
Just one more exemplum to show that theft should be a capital offense. I saw your earlier post about someone “borrowing” a revolver and it never came back. Should be a double hanging with whoever took John’s…. I just do not understand how people can be that way. Ask Dave. He can explain it to you.
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Post by don on Nov 19, 2023 17:12:12 GMT -5
I would say JUST RIGHT considering how a SA should be handled and shot. You need to be able to curl that pinkie under the front of the stock. Does that Uberti have a frame-mounted firing pin? No. It has this one: I would have preferred a traditional mounted firing pin, but I think this system should be fine. I know some of the early variants of it had improperly heat-treated pins. I have a friend who could easily replace it for me if it breaks. Heck, he machines his own Sharps and High Wall receivers and other parts, so it would be child’s play for him.
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 19, 2023 17:49:30 GMT -5
The original firing pin. Should work just fine.
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 19, 2023 17:51:17 GMT -5
Just one more exemplum to show that theft should be a capital offense. In the Islamic world the hand which stole is chopped off. Brutal but effective. When theft is punished without exceptions, all else falls into place.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 4, 2024 21:34:48 GMT -5
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 6, 2024 15:11:55 GMT -5
I would say JUST RIGHT considering how a SA should be handled and shot. You need to be able to curl that pinkie under the front of the stock. Does that Uberti have a frame-mounted firing pin? No. It has this one: I would have preferred a traditional mounted firing pin, but I think this system should be fine. I know some of the early variants of it had improperly heat-treated pins. I have a friend who could easily replace it for me if it breaks. Heck, he machines his own Sharps and High Wall receivers and other parts, so it would be child’s play for him. I really like this solution. Very ingenious.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 6, 2024 15:57:23 GMT -5
That’s the original Colt-style firing pin. Older S&Ws have the same system, but Smith calls it a “hammer nose.”
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Post by don on Jan 7, 2024 23:54:32 GMT -5
I’ve got a hankering for a Colt Detective Special. I like the old ones but would prefer the later shrouded variant. Maybe I’ll pick one up at this year’s CGC show.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 8, 2024 10:43:45 GMT -5
Hankerings, like crocodiles, must be fed.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 8, 2024 12:15:07 GMT -5
I’ve got a hankering for a Colt Detective Special. I like the old ones but would prefer the later shrouded variant. Maybe I’ll pick one up at this year’s CGC show. I have one, as depicted above. Gave it to me wife and she loves it. Shoots it well, too. I have an original Cobra, the DS with alloy frame, great small package for easy carry. I believe you will find the heavier barrel and shrouded ejector to be the more shootable.
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