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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 15, 2024 18:56:10 GMT -5
I have been very disappointed in new Smiths. The ones I have looked at in the store have been either ugly, flat black, with crap top and bottom, or super expensive 500 caliber stainless elements. Saw a ton of 29s on Gun Broker for less than the new crap. You know that 9/10 of those haven't shot a box of ammo. |
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Post by urbino on Jan 15, 2024 19:08:03 GMT -5
If somebody wants to buy an older 648 and send it to me for long-term testing and evaluation, I'm amenable.
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Post by Gypo on Jan 15, 2024 19:24:07 GMT -5
If somebody wants to buy an older 648 and send it to me for long-term testing and evaluation, I'm amenable. Unless they like me more! |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 15, 2024 19:27:00 GMT -5
Tussle!
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Post by urbino on Jan 15, 2024 19:29:55 GMT -5
If somebody wants to buy an older 648 and send it to me for long-term testing and evaluation, I'm amenable. Unless they like me more! As if! |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 15, 2024 20:11:54 GMT -5
I think I’ve mentioned before that the last two new Smiths I bought were not ready for prime time. Both went back to the factory, one of them twice. The sense of craftsmanship seems to have been lost. Smiths from the Glory Days were jewels. Pieces of mechanical art. There was no mistaking the pride that went into making them. Ron’s 357 Rossi looks really nice. I saw the potential for Rossi 35 years ago. I took my dad’s 38 3” apart when I first got it for him and was very impressed with its innards. Copied from S&W of course but all well-made and well put together. If they’ve improved even from those days, which I have heard they have, then they may just tear a chunk out of Smith’s bottom line— which they deserve to have done. And at less than half what a comparable Smith would cost!
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Post by Gypo on Jan 15, 2024 21:00:50 GMT -5
I think I’ve mentioned before that the last two new Smiths I bought were not ready for prime time. Both went back to the factory, one of them twice. The sense of craftsmanship seems to have been lost. Smiths from the Glory Days were jewels. Pieces of mechanical art. There was no mistaking the pride that went into making them. Ron’s 357 Rossi looks really nice. I saw the potential for Rossi 35 years ago. I took my dad’s 38 3” apart when I first got it for him and was very impressed with its innards. Copied from S&W of course but all well-made and well put together. If they’ve improved even from those days, which I have heard they have, then they may just tear a chunk out of Smith’s bottom line— which they deserve to have done. And at less than half what a comparable Smith would cost! Which models were they and how did you like them after all the work was done on them? |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 15, 2024 21:03:09 GMT -5
I can’t remember the model numbers. It was a 38 Special with a 3” barrel. Their lowest I would imagine b/c I bought it as a house gun for my dad. Sorry.
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Post by Gypo on Jan 15, 2024 21:10:29 GMT -5
You think like I do, the very best of Smith & Wesson has come and gone my limited experience got to shoot a 1937 reg. 357 with 8 and 3/4 inch barrel not 8 and 3/8 very smooth. The guy who owned it offered it to me one night after a few cocktails and I did not take him up on it. I still kick myself! It belonged to his father still had the rolled up parchment with his dad's name and all the specks on the gun. Two other pre 27s are very smooth and their actions have been nicer than any Python I have ever picked up. Also two pre 17s they are so smooth and shoot so well.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 15, 2024 21:38:16 GMT -5
When my FIL retired in 1989,his co-workers gave him a stainless Combat Masterpiece. He offered it to me, but I said for him to keep it until he was sure. Then he later moved to Connecticut with the wife's sister and her biker husband. It was actually good for him and his last days were happy. I don't regret it. He gave me the 30-30 Model 94 in 77,right after we were married.
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Post by urbino on Jan 16, 2024 18:47:02 GMT -5
This is the same as the first revolver I ever owned. It was my first handgun, first centerfire gun too. In 32 H&R Magnum. Pretty sweet little gun. I eventually sold it and bought a 4” Ruger Security Six in .357. An even better revolver. The Ruger was what got me into reloading.  I like that one. The frame is maybe a tad squarish, but it suits the nonfluted cylinder. I like it. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 16, 2024 21:36:16 GMT -5
This is the same as the first revolver I ever owned. It was my first handgun, first centerfire gun too. In 32 H&R Magnum. Pretty sweet little gun. I eventually sold it and bought a 4” Ruger Security Six in .357. An even better revolver. The Ruger was what got me into reloading. Is that an H&R? Never mind. |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 17, 2024 9:25:03 GMT -5
Stout looking. I do not recall the Security Six being that square and chunky.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 17, 2024 13:51:56 GMT -5
Kimber has a new revolver, the K6XS, that is the size and weight of the J-frame Smiths, double action only. 38 Special +p, 15.5 ounces. The street price is only about $150 more than my Rossi, and 230 more than the equivalent Rossi.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 18, 2024 13:39:30 GMT -5
I had an unfortunate encounter with a mentally disturbed individual while at the supermarket in town this week. Aggressive and belligerent for no reason I can figure. He was waiting for me when I emerged with cart and groceries. I was able to stare him down. The day before, a senior citizen was shot in the parking lot by a kid with a gun wanting to lift his wallet. So, I guess it is time for me to renew the CCW permit. I have to take the class again and have contacted the one and only state approved instructor living in Taos County. Planning on using one of my two Colt .38 Specials for the range qualification. They are both suitable carry pieces but prefer the old Cobra.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 18, 2024 14:30:08 GMT -5
I had an unfortunate encounter with a mentally disturbed individual while at the supermarket in town this week. Aggressive and belligerent for no reason I can figure. He was waiting for me when I emerged with cart and groceries. I was able to stare him down. The day before, a senior citizen was shot in the parking lot by a kid with a gun wanting to lift his wallet. So, I guess it is time for me to renew the CCW permit. I have to take the class again and have contacted the one and only state approved instructor living in Taos County. Planning on using one of my two Colt .38 Specials for the range qualification. They are both suitable carry pieces but prefer the old Cobra. Was this in Taos or Costilla? He would have been so perforated in Linden that he would have left in multiple bags. I'm sure drugs were involved. |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 18, 2024 14:39:23 GMT -5
I had an unfortunate encounter with a mentally disturbed individual while at the supermarket in town this week. Aggressive and belligerent for no reason I can figure. He was waiting for me when I emerged with cart and groceries. I was able to stare him down. The day before, a senior citizen was shot in the parking lot by a kid with a gun wanting to lift his wallet. So, I guess it is time for me to renew the CCW permit. I have to take the class again and have contacted the one and only state approved instructor living in Taos County. Planning on using one of my two Colt .38 Specials for the range qualification. They are both suitable carry pieces but prefer the old Cobra. Was this in Taos or Costilla? He would have been so perforated in Linden that he would have left in multiple bags. I'm sure drugs were involved. In Taos. The teen is in custody and I do not know what happened to the Senior other than he was shot in the head. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 18, 2024 14:49:04 GMT -5
So much craziness. The last thing I want to do is to have to use deadly force on someone. No, wait— that’s the second ‘last thing.’ The first is that I don’t want deadly force to be used on ME.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 18, 2024 15:23:07 GMT -5
So much craziness. The last thing I want to do is to have to use deadly force on someone. No, wait— that’s the second ‘last thing.’ The first is that I don’t want deadly force to be used on ME. This. No sane person WANTS to shoot another human. |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 18, 2024 15:32:12 GMT -5
Certainly not but if it is them or me I will do what I must within the law.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 18, 2024 16:05:15 GMT -5
Certainly not but if it is them or me I will do what I must within the law. As will I. But I've made it this long. |
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Post by urbino on Jan 18, 2024 16:32:57 GMT -5
I had an unfortunate encounter with a mentally disturbed individual while at the supermarket in town this week. Aggressive and belligerent for no reason I can figure. He was waiting for me when I emerged with cart and groceries. I was able to stare him down. The day before, a senior citizen was shot in the parking lot by a kid with a gun wanting to lift his wallet. So, I guess it is time for me to renew the CCW permit. I have to take the class again and have contacted the one and only state approved instructor living in Taos County. Planning on using one of my two Colt .38 Specials for the range qualification. They are both suitable carry pieces but prefer the old Cobra. I had a similar encounter several years ago with some nutter who was enraged I was riding a bicycle and followed me into Target. Stay safe out there, John. |
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Post by instymp on Jan 18, 2024 18:17:09 GMT -5
This is the same as the first revolver I ever owned. It was my first handgun, first centerfire gun too. In 32 H&R Magnum. Pretty sweet little gun. I eventually sold it and bought a 4” Ruger Security Six in .357. An even better revolver. The Ruger was what got me into reloading. Is that an H&R? Never mind. I had a security 6 and never looked like that |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 18, 2024 19:33:42 GMT -5
My son’s 12th birthday present was a 357 Security Six. Looked nothing like that H&R— which looks like something out of “Zulu.”
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 18, 2024 20:39:30 GMT -5
Trantor? I was actually thinking of the chunky early Webleys but they were later than the Zulu War.
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Post by don on Jan 18, 2024 20:50:12 GMT -5
Trantor? I was actually thinking of the chunky early Webleys but they were later than the Zulu War. 1872 MkIII Adams. I love the style of all the Victorian Era British revolvers. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 18, 2024 21:13:23 GMT -5
That looks like it would be a handful in 357. Tiny grip. Ouch!
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Post by don on Jan 18, 2024 21:36:51 GMT -5
That looks like it would be a handful in 357. Tiny grip. Ouch! I would probably mostly shoot 38 in one of those. Curious to see if they do a 3”. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 18, 2024 22:09:35 GMT -5
I have a 3” J-frame (they call it a “Magnum” J-frame) Model 60 in 357. Very unpleasant. I doubt I have put 6 rounds of 357 thru it. I wanted it for the 3” bbl and adjustable sights, not as a 357. And such a light gun doesn’t like 357s either. It wouldn’t take all that many to shoot it loose. Which I will not do.  |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 18, 2024 22:25:26 GMT -5
Long ago, my first outing, I won a summer-long PPC league tournament with a 4” heavy-barrel 64. They laughed at me when I entered the tourney with a fixed sight 4”. (Purchased from a game warden.) But even a blind squirrel… It was the first Smith I did an action job on. Sweet. 64s were also often used as the beginning for a custom PPC pistol.
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