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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 7:51:06 GMT -5
I don't know how many times I've heard or read about some obviously slacked jawed moron leaving her child or children lock in a Hot car in these 90-100+ degree weather a lot of us are having. I bet at least once or twice or more a day anywhere in America you can find someone that has done this. Are people really that fricken stupid or are they making this stuff up for entertainment value? It just baffles me how anyone can do these things, it's like the older electric fans with the open cage, just plug'em in and watch someone uncontrollably stick there finger in it. And BTW, I never had that problem, nor did I eat paint. Who the hell eats paint!?
Back on subject, I mean there's even a law I believe if your caught leaving a child or even a pet in a hot car they can site you or even arrest you. Does that stop it? No! These morons do it on a regular basis. These parents which are probably the same ones that expect everyone else to raise the children for them should be lined up and smacked with a 2x4 in the back of the head until they get some sense. And that's another thing, "Where in the hell has common sense gone?" Young people of today seem not to have any what so ever and are obviously growing up to think there's no problem leaving your child or pet locked in a hot car. And then we wonder why Juries and Voter's seem to be Real Fricken Stupid these past years. It's just gotta be in the food or water but, I still have common sense? Maybe the government starting back in the 90's was implanting a stupid gene into newborns? Or maybe it's part of the extinction process, the stupider they get the quicker they'll die off? I give up, it just baffles me to no end.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Aug 26, 2019 8:06:30 GMT -5
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Post by trailboss on Aug 26, 2019 8:35:51 GMT -5
It is a weird thing...I heard that in one family, 99% of the time the woman dropped the kid off at daycare, so dad just spaced out as he was in his routine going to work that the kid was there...still, it shouold not happen....that is a horrible way to die, I can magine.
Here in Arizona, that and kids either drowning and dying, or drowning with permanent brain damage happens too often. New pools are required to ave child proof fences, the old pools it is not reqired.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 8:44:38 GMT -5
I blame it all on safe playground equipment and helmets. Back in the day the average school playground was designed to remove fingers, give third degree burns, break bones and even kill some of the less desirable. A child lacking the common sense trait was lucky to make it past seven. Leaving kids and pets in a hot car has become common place it takes about 13 minutes to cause brain damage or even death in some cases. That was what the local news was saying just the other morning. Somehow in all these stories they don't forget their cell phone.
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Post by briarbuck on Aug 26, 2019 8:57:53 GMT -5
I blame it all on safe playground equipment and helmets. Back in the day the average school playground was designed to remove fingers, give third degree burns, break bones and even kill some of the less desirable. A child lacking the common sense trait was lucky to make it past seven. Leaving kids and pets in a hot car has become common place it takes about 13 minutes to cause brain damage or even death in some cases. That was what the local news was saying just the other morning. Somehow in all these stories they don't forget their cell phone. I wish I could like a post more than once. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 9:00:36 GMT -5
I blame it all on safe playground equipment and helmets. Back in the day the average school playground was designed to remove fingers, give third degree burns, break bones and even kill some of the less desirable. A child lacking the common sense trait was lucky to make it past seven. Leaving kids and pets in a hot car has become common place it takes about 13 minutes to cause brain damage or even death in some cases. That was what the local news was saying just the other morning. Somehow in all these stories they don't forget their cell phone. Ya know, I was taught certain things in my life by no other then My Parents, although a lot went in one ear and out the other some sank in and what didn't I learned with experience not to do them again. Although still in life I've made mistakes and sometimes repeated them but, they were mostly judgement calls about trusting and character issues (if that makes sense). And with all the things I've done to my body and mind through the years I believe I still have enough common sense to get me from point "A" to point "B" alive without killing or maiming anybody in the process.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 9:19:34 GMT -5
It is a weird thing...I heard that in one family, 99% of the time the woman dropped the kid off at daycare, so dad just spaced out as he was in his routine going to work that the kid was there...still, it shouold not happen....that is a horrible way to die, I can magine. Here in Arizona, that and kids either drowning and dying, or drowning with permanent brain damage happens too often. New pools are required to ave child proof fences, the old pools it is not reqired. You bring up another good point Charlie, I spent many a summer in a pool when I was a tike, and never once almost drown. How does this happen? I AGAIN was taught at an early age to swim and when I was too little to go into a pool or body of water my parents WATCHED me so I wouldn't or carried me into the pool with them making damn sure I wouldn't drown. Parents really need to start teaching there children and not leaving it up to the schools and others.
Sadly, my own daughter expects schools to teach my grandson common sense and values it seems. He's an idiot and won't listen to anyone, constantly has his head into a video game and is worthless around the house. Ya have to tell him each and everyday to take the trash out and other chores that he knows he has to do. Of course his dad babies him and won't even let his mother reprimand him. My grandson hates me because I know his tricks while his parents haven't a clue or are just to involved with there own lives to care. Kids gona be living with mommy and daddy the rest of his life or doing life without parole. Sadly, I gave up on all of them, I still can't tell my daughter anything, at 40 she still thinks she knows everything and I'm an idiot. Of course I blame myself for a lot of that, not being there for her more after the divorce. Anyway, I've went too far as usual with my rant. Nuff said for now.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Aug 26, 2019 9:30:31 GMT -5
Common sense isn't common anymore...a lot of it comes from our experiment in social engineering...it ain't workin' folks!
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Post by oldcajun123 on Aug 26, 2019 9:49:17 GMT -5
 We had a pool, I taught them at an early age how to survive in water, Navy gave me good training. Kids came to swim in our pool, 2 rules I had to see if you could swim, and towels left were mine.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 26, 2019 10:15:09 GMT -5
I almost drowned in swimming pools twice. The first time was at the public pool in Kilgore Tx. I dove into an inner tube and got stuck upside down. My niece saw and pulled me out. A girl drowned here this year the same way. The second time was during a swimming trial at my first Boy Scout summer camp. All the leaders had their backs to the pool talking about the war or something when I got exhausted and was going down for the third time. My best friend pulled me out, which is really good because that would have been embarrassing for the Scouts. 😈💩👹
We have had dozens of children drown, backed over in the driveway,shot in drive bys, shot directly on purpose, left in hot cars and nursery school vans, and chopped up and dumped in Arkansas. Really, really sick of it. I think that the parents of the kids being left in the cars are victims of the current pace of society and the world. Thinking about what they needed to do yesterday instead of being in the moment. Cell phones have their attention more than the child sleeping in the back seat. Not bad people or even stupid, just overwhelmed by life, which just got a thousand times worse.
We have a place on the San Jacinto River that is a favorite park for family get to gathers and parties, and on average 5 people drown there every year. This has been going on for at least 50 years, so that is around 250 people who have died at this one park. You would think that they would put up a sign or something, besides the little "No Lifeguard on Duty"
sign. Most of the people who go there have no idea that it's the most dangerous place in Harris County. It all just breaks my heart.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:35:27 GMT -5
I almost drowned in swimming pools twice. The first time was at the public pool in Kilgore Tx. I dove into an inner tube and got stuck upside down. My niece saw and pulled me out. A girl drowned here this year the same way. The second time was during a swimming trial at my first Boy Scout summer camp. All the leaders had their backs to the pool talking about the war or something when I got exhausted and was going down for the third time. My best friend pulled me out, which is really good because that would have been embarrassing for the Scouts. 😈💩👹 We have had dozens of children drown, backed over in the driveway,shot in drive bys, shot directly on purpose, left in hot cars and nursery school vans, and chopped up and dumped in Arkansas. Really, really sick of it. I think that the parents of the kids being left in the cars are victims of the current pace of society and the world. Thinking about what they needed to do yesterday instead of being in the moment. Cell phones have their attention more than the child sleeping in the back seat. Not bad people or even stupid, just overwhelmed by life, which just got a thousand times worse. We have a place on the San Jacinto River that is a favorite park for family get to gathers and parties, and on average 5 people drown there every year. This has been going on for at least 50 years, so that is around 250 people who have died at this one park. You would think that they would put up a sign or something, besides the little "No Lifeguard on Duty" sign. Most of the people who go there have no idea that it's the most dangerous place in Harris County. It all just breaks my heart. I see your point and agree with a lot of what you said Ron but, I still feel it's the parents duty and should be without saying that your child comes first and foremost ahead of EVERYTHING. People have got to start understanding that they are the ONLY thing that lies between life and death of there children. You can't count on anything or anybody to do your job for you and if you don't want to take that responsibility then don't have kids. Now this doean't mean to be overly protective because that will do just as much harm. There are things that happen in this world nowadays on a daily basis that are just horrific and if I was a young man again planning on getting married, a child would not be an option. No way would I bring a child into a world that is so filled with evil, hate and pain as it is now. I know the suffering that goes on in just a fraction of our world and I would not want to subject anyone to it. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 26, 2019 10:47:31 GMT -5
Ron, I agree, but I am just saying that it's a different world from what we raised our kids in. Everything moves at the speed of light, but evolution hasn't kept up. We are the same creatures that once lived their entire lives in tribes and villages and never saw anyone from the outside world. No news other than the beans are slow coming up and one of the sheep died. It's not an excuse, but it is a reason. We decided not to have kids when Carter was president because the future looked so dark. Then the sun miraculously came out after the next election and we changed our minds.
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Post by Stearmandriver on Aug 26, 2019 10:53:00 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 12:16:37 GMT -5
I think the complaints are about the same kind of children and the parents that supposedly taught them or didn't teach them common sense, morality, right from wrong, etc., etc. I agree these people sent there genes down the line, just surprising that gene pool hasn't dried up yet.  Or maybe it's because everything is so easy nowadays and not even like the 1800's when if you didn't have it all together you'd die in a blink of an eye. When you worked you really worked, no A/C or forced heating and no government laws preventing dangerous work environments.
And here's one, the governments laws protecting obviously the nimrods of society from eating paint, lead, mercury and any other noxious material you can think of that most of us know better not to eat, drink, or rub on our bellies for the sake of collecting more taxes longer. Laws keeping manufactures from selling anything we may stick our fingers or any other appendages in, on or through that may injure us. I never stuck my head through the rungs of a crib, highchair or stair case, never stuck my finger (or anything else of mine) in a running fan or light socket or anything in a outlet, never tried to pump gasoline with a vacuum cleaner or any of those other ridiculous things we keep hearing about. There's a reason for all this and I believe it falls on the parents and maybe a percentage on gene's. I can't think of any other legitimate reason that wouldn't be just an excuse.
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Post by Stearmandriver on Aug 26, 2019 12:33:29 GMT -5
Haha that's true, new technology always affords new and exciting opportunities for dumbassery!
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Post by oldcajun123 on Aug 26, 2019 13:01:06 GMT -5
When I have my grandkids I run them thru dumbass school, what is that, pointing at farm machinery, where can you put your finger in, they look, NOWHERES I shout, where do you fill up the tractor, they point, can PawPaw smoke when filling up, NO,NO, I say, they follow me as I make common sense observations, they know after dumbass school we’re going to the snow cone stand. A wonderful observation was made I bet she didn’t forget her cellphone. You gotta work with them.
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Post by kxg on Aug 26, 2019 13:14:02 GMT -5
The trouble with "common sense" is that it is not, nor has it ever been, all that common; that is why it is so highly valued and always has been.
Every generation claims they have more common sense than the following generations, but that is the same thing the preceding generations said about them. It is a cycle of life, or something like that.
Unfortunately, some of our distractions have catastrophic consequences. The trick is to not be distracted in the high risk situations, which of course requires thinking about risk, which of course requires thinking; therein lies the rub.
Another thought: Without a few people doing incredibly foolish things, where would we get candidates for the Darwin Awards?
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Post by briarbuck on Aug 26, 2019 13:26:57 GMT -5
People haven't changed all that much, it's just that now we know all about it.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Aug 26, 2019 13:45:10 GMT -5
People haven't changed all that much, it's just that now we know all about it. So true! |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 26, 2019 15:38:05 GMT -5
I couldnt agree more Ron
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 16:21:46 GMT -5
People haven't changed all that much, it's just that now we know all about it. So what your saying is that generation after generation at least the same amount of people have never learned from there ancestors mistakes. I reckon I could partially agree with that but, I've seen a lot over the years excluding what I've heard or read. And I've gotta tell ya there must be a cult following because in my short time I've been on this earth it seems there getting stupider. Now mind you I'm not no genius, in fact I'll be the first to admit I can be pretty dimwitted but, these people don't have the sense of a bag of hammers.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 26, 2019 16:26:19 GMT -5
As a matter of fact, one day last week at work we found one of the old metal box fans. It still worked and kicked out more air than the POSs today too. My boss asked why they quit making them, figuring it was cost of materials and durability (they last forever). I told him that wasn't it at all, that something happened to the generation after mine and for some reason they cant keep their fingers out of them.
I really don't get it. I had terrible parents, I'm also no where near the best parent. But my children are MY responsibility and they are the first thing on my mind no matter what I'm doing. I dont keep my kids in a bubble, I try to guide them the right way, but we know how that goes. They have to learn through experiences. Which leads back to the fan... my grandpa's philosophy was "you can only put your finger in it 10 times."
Quick edit: Saturday me and my 1 1/2 year old were sitting outside on the bench. He was right next to me. He found a nut and a bolt and was looking at them. Mom came out and got mad because I was letting him play with it. Was I going to let him eat it? Hell no, I'm not stupid. She went inside. He sat there and played with it until he figured out how it went together. I see no catastrophe in that. Call me a bad parent if you want to... but that's a lesson that you can use nuts and bolts... however, they are not food!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 17:05:39 GMT -5
As a matter of fact, one day last week at work we found one of the old metal box fans. It still worked and kicked out more air than the POSs today too. My boss asked why they quit making them, figuring it was cost of materials and durability (they last forever). I told him that wasn't it at all, that something happened to the generation after mine and for some reason they cant keep their fingers out of them. I really don't get it. I had terrible parents, I'm also no where near the best parent. But my children are MY responsibility and they are the first thing on my mind no matter what I'm doing. I dont keep my kids in a bubble, I try to guide them the right way, but we know how that goes. They have to learn through experiences. Which leads back to the fan... my grandpa's philosophy was "you can only put your finger in it 10 times." Quick edit: Saturday me and my 1 1/2 year old were sitting outside on the bench. He was right next to me. He found a nut and a bolt and was looking at them. Mom came out and got mad because I was letting him play with it. Was I going to let him eat it? Hell no, I'm not stupid. She went inside. He sat there and played with it until he figured out how it went together. I see no catastrophe in that. Call me a bad parent if you want to... but that's a lesson that you can use nuts and bolts... however, they are not food! Great tale sir, and it reminds me of when I was just 4 or 5 years old, actually my mother told me this story and I recall doing it but, nothing else. She'd catch me on multiple occasions on the floor with one of the alarm clocks completely taken apart. She never knew how I did it or really why. These clocks where all metal, except for the crystals of course and screwed together and had windup mechanisms.
Strange how that followed me through life because I was always bringing something home, radios, TV's, you name it and taking them apart and repairing them.
Later years I repaired and restored vintage small electric appliances, antique electric Fans, vintage telephones, etc., etc. That should have been my feild, an engineer or the like not a fricken truck driver but, color blindness and aptitude kept me away from it.
Oops! High jacked my own thread, sorry guys.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Aug 26, 2019 17:12:17 GMT -5
As a matter of fact, one day last week at work we found one of the old metal box fans. It still worked and kicked out more air than the POSs today too. My boss asked why they quit making them, figuring it was cost of materials and durability (they last forever). I told him that wasn't it at all, that something happened to the generation after mine and for some reason they cant keep their fingers out of them. I really don't get it. I had terrible parents, I'm also no where near the best parent. But my children are MY responsibility and they are the first thing on my mind no matter what I'm doing. I dont keep my kids in a bubble, I try to guide them the right way, but we know how that goes. They have to learn through experiences. Which leads back to the fan... my grandpa's philosophy was "you can only put your finger in it 10 times." Quick edit: Saturday me and my 1 1/2 year old were sitting outside on the bench. He was right next to me. He found a nut and a bolt and was looking at them. Mom came out and got mad because I was letting him play with it. Was I going to let him eat it? Hell no, I'm not stupid. She went inside. He sat there and played with it until he figured out how it went together. I see no catastrophe in that. Call me a bad parent if you want to... but that's a lesson that you can use nuts and bolts... however, they are not food!I think after knowing you as well as I do...you have made up for your past errors and have been an excellent parent...something pretty rare these days. So keep on keeping on, is what I would suggest. |
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Post by kbareit on Aug 26, 2019 18:02:13 GMT -5
It seems people are a lot dumber the older I get and things look worse than they used to. My mother always said the same stuff has been going on forever but now it's reported on and we hear about it more. On the outside the town I live in seems like a perfect little town but the stuff you don't hear about would curl your toes.
I like Brads way to educate the grandkids. My grandfather believed in the old let them do it and they won't do it again theory. I kept reaching for the stove and my mother would stop me and he let me reach it and I got burnt, never did it again. My grandmother would just smack the crap of you and tell you no. It was quite effective also.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 19:29:04 GMT -5
It seems people are a lot dumber the older I get and things look worse than they used to. My mother always said the same stuff has been going on forever but now it's reported on and we hear about it more. On the outside the town I live in seems like a perfect little town but the stuff you don't hear about would curl your toes. I like Brads way to educate the grandkids. My grandfather believed in the old let them do it and they won't do it again theory. I kept reaching for the stove and my mother would stop me and he let me reach it and I got burnt, never did it again. My grandmother would just smack the crap of you and tell you no. It was quite effective also. And I think that has something to do with the way kids are today too. Spare the rod spoil the child, I got beat my fair share and I never repeated many wrongs.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 26, 2019 19:30:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 19:32:33 GMT -5
I got arse whoopins more than allowance! Allowance? Whats that, how many times you can only get a beating a month? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 19:36:04 GMT -5
Allowance is what you got for doing your chores to teach you the value of money. Much harder than screaming in the floor by cash register because you didn't get that new toy.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 26, 2019 19:36:50 GMT -5
Exactly my point! There were some months where I wished there was an allowance on the number of belts I wore 6" low. I liked fire... still do I turned out alright.... depending on who you ask If I would have threw a fit in the store I would have been "given something to cry about" right there. |
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We had a pool, I taught them at an early age how to survive in water, Navy gave me good training. Kids came to swim in our pool, 2 rules I had to see if you could swim, and towels left were mine.
Or maybe it's because everything is so easy nowadays and not even like the 1800's when if you didn't have it all together you'd die in a blink of an eye. When you worked you really worked, no A/C or forced heating and no government laws preventing dangerous work environments. 
