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Post by toshtego on Nov 12, 2020 16:51:11 GMT -5
I believe he designed it. You could be right. I just assumed it was the Colt 1911 made under license in Mexico. |
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Post by toshtego on Nov 12, 2020 17:12:43 GMT -5
Low and behold, the Mexican Obregon uses a rotating barrel locking system designed by Señor Obregon. Only superficially after the Browning design.
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Post by bonanzadriver on Nov 12, 2020 18:38:10 GMT -5
My main concern with a daily carry gun is reliability... That being said, the priority for me is... Ease of carry and reliability... To that end I primarily carry the following....  My Daily.  My other daily carry...  My sometimes daily carry.. |
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 12, 2020 19:54:13 GMT -5
The CW9 is an excellent choice. I also tote one. When my Colt’s Dragoon is in the shop.  |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Nov 14, 2020 13:11:19 GMT -5
Eeek! 9mm ammo is up to $1/round here...
... IF you're lucky enough to find it.
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Post by toshtego on Nov 14, 2020 13:41:19 GMT -5
The CW9 is an excellent choice. I also tote one. When my Colt’s Dragoon is in the shop. I had a Colt Heritage Walker with a El Paso Saddlery Holster. That gun was much fun and I am sure the Dragoons are too. |
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Post by simnettpratt on Nov 14, 2020 16:54:25 GMT -5
Still cheaper than 38 and 357. IF you can find it. ammoseek can find some FMJ 38s from manufacturers you've never heard of starting around a dollar and going up to five dollars. A round.
Yes, I'll take five rounds of 9mm, three rounds of 38, and er, just the one 357 please.
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Post by Gandalf on Nov 14, 2020 18:39:38 GMT -5
Eeek! 9mm ammo is up to $1/round here... ... IF you're lucky enough to find it. Wow. I found 5.56mm a couple states away - for $0.75 per round. I thought that was high! |
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Post by Gandalf on Nov 14, 2020 18:45:55 GMT -5
Just cleaned off my bench today. Ready to start loading 9mm tomorrow.
As of Monday I will have fired 500 rounds in pistol league.
Need to replenish my supply.
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Post by toshtego on Nov 14, 2020 18:58:23 GMT -5
Shocked at these handgun ammo prices!!
Checking inventory, I have about 55 rounds of .38 Special, 500+ rounds of .44 Magnum, 50 rounds of .44 Russian, 50 or so rounds of .38 S&W 158 grain lead. Miscellaneous .45 Colt. .45 ACP, and 9mm.
That ought to handle the first wave of swarming liberals or fascists. Not sure which are coming my way. The next wave will be met with swords and knives.
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Post by trailboss on Nov 14, 2020 20:59:12 GMT -5
Eeek! 9mm ammo is up to $1/round here... ... IF you're lucky enough to find it. Yipes! I have $1500.00 worth of 9mm then! Still a chump amount of what I should have on hand of that caliber. My 6 magazines for the Hellcat came from Midway USA this week, the wife was asking where the heck her P238 mags are... must order. |
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Post by simnettpratt on Nov 14, 2020 22:14:01 GMT -5
Those prices are for the cheapest ball ammo, or remanufactured, or some weird 65gr frangible plastic eco-friendly type crap. ammoseek found NO ONE with defensive 9mm in stock in the first hundred hits.
I read one of the major manufacturer's representative (like Federal or Winchester or someone) say their backlog was one year, ie they won't be caught up with their current orders for a year.
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Post by lizardonarock on Nov 14, 2020 22:21:31 GMT -5
If you shoot at something hit it, if you miss try again, if you take a third shot you are wasting ammo. Words from my father who fought in three real wars and he meant what he said.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Nov 15, 2020 6:29:39 GMT -5
The prices are horrendous. 5.56 are just as bad here. A friend called and said he found 7.62 x 39 rounds for 8.99 a box. I told him that was great, but he wouldn't sell me his other SKS. at least he was smart and picked up his limit and had his boys go back and pick up their limit as well (5 boxes per day).
Maybe it's time to start reloading...
I picked up a Canik 9mm Friday. It fit what I was looking for. They also have a 1911 in a box, under the counter, with my name on it 😁.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 15, 2020 10:40:52 GMT -5
I stock up on ammo whenever I have a little money and I happen to be in the store. I keep finding ammo. I found about 6 assorted boxes in the storeroom.
I don't know how many rounds I have, but it weighs around 200 pounds all together.
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Post by toshtego on Nov 15, 2020 10:47:20 GMT -5
I found a .45 ACP Hardball cartridge in my desk drawer. Now accepting offers on it. It is a "R-P" made.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 15, 2020 11:06:42 GMT -5
I have 10 rounds of Nazi marked 8x56R in stripper clips. Bidding starts at $5/round. 😉🤔🤠
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Post by toshtego on Nov 15, 2020 14:36:58 GMT -5
I have 10 rounds of Nazi marked 8x56R in stripper clips. Bidding starts at $5/round. 😉🤔🤠 Not much interest here in FMJ surplus ammo. My K98 fought on the other side of that struggle. LOL! I have a couple boxes of Czech made softpoints and one box of Winchester FMJ. |
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Post by simnettpratt on Nov 15, 2020 15:40:12 GMT -5
Me: [glimpsing the future]
I'll give you a can of beans for the softpoints and refill your disposable lighter for the FMJ.
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Post by toshtego on Nov 15, 2020 15:52:05 GMT -5
Me: [glimpsing the future] I'll give you a can of beans for the softpoints and refill your disposable lighter for the FMJ. That is where me might be in the near future. Bartering goods. |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Nov 15, 2020 16:14:18 GMT -5
Me: [glimpsing the future] I'll give you a can of beans for the softpoints and refill your disposable lighter for the FMJ. That is where me might be in the near future. Bartering goods. I hope so, people love their vices, and most of us here have more tobacco than we know what to do with. Maybe I'll finally get that goat I always wanted! |
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Post by trailboss on Nov 15, 2020 16:15:29 GMT -5
A wise man once told me when my budget was more limited:
“ Instead of saving up to buy a thousand rounds at rock bottom prices, pick up a box every payday, and you will end up with plenty of ammo”.
That has served me well.
I found that if you are searching for ammo at a Walmart store, park near the oil change and when you walk into the main store look for the fishing poles above the shelves, that puts you where you need to be.
And, strike up a friendly conversation with the sporting goods associate, ask him how his day is going, and before you leave ask him if he knows of any scheduled ammunition deliveries.
At least around here, they typically know... especially the guy that works the day shift.
Nammo Talley here in Mesa has all of their machines running 24/7, and they supply projectiles to many of the household names from the boutique ammo companies to the giants. With all of the gun sales in the last decade or so, the demand far outstrips the supply, and it isn’t cheap to expand the facility.
I used to pick up 40k pounds regularly when I went there. It doesn’t take many pallets to get to that point!
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 15, 2020 17:12:10 GMT -5
I guess I’m lucky. Out in the bunk house I have two Dillons, a Rockchucker, and a CH Magnum. Plus the makin’s. Haven’t bought factory in many years.
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Post by toshtego on Nov 15, 2020 17:41:42 GMT -5
A wise man once told me when my budget was more limited: “ Instead of saving up to buy a thousand rounds at rock bottom prices, pick up a box every payday, and you will end up with plenty of ammo”. That has served me well. I found that if you are searching for ammo at a Walmart store, park near the oil change and when you walk into the main store look for the fishing poles above the shelves, that puts you where you need to be. And, strike up a friendly conversation with the sporting goods associate, ask him how his day is going, and before you leave ask him if he knows of any scheduled ammunition deliveries. At least around here, they typically know... especially the guy that works the day shift. Nammo Talley here in Mesa has all of their machines running 24/7, and they supply projectiles to many of the household names from the boutique ammo companies to the giants. With all of the gun sales in the last decade or so, the demand far outstrips the supply, and it isn’t cheap to expand the facility. I used to pick up 40k pounds regularly when I went there. It doesn’t take many pallets to get to that point! The problem is finding any for sale. Gun and sports stores do not have any ammo in Taos. Big R had some in Alamosa but the case is kept locked and no one can find anyone who knows where the key is. There is no store more fouled up than Big R Farm and ranch Supply. I do not go to enough other places to find ammo. I imagine there are remote stores in small towns which might still have inventory? |
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Post by toshtego on Nov 15, 2020 17:47:06 GMT -5
Found another box of 50 .44 magnum FMJ flat nose in my Landcruiser tool box.
Maybe I can cut the copper off the flatpoint and score the sides to it can expand? Never tried that.
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 15, 2020 17:59:49 GMT -5
Found another box of 50 .44 magnum FMJ flat nose in my Landcruiser tool box. Maybe I can cut the copper off the flatpoint and score the sides to it can expand? Never tried that. If asked. I’d say “Don’t.” You’d wind up with bullets of widely varying weights and lousy flight characteristics. Another consideration, while I am unaware of any court case that was decided on the basis of the use of handloaded ammunition used in a self-defense shooting, there would be glee on the prosecutor’s face if someone took factory ammo and “modified” it to make it more deadly. Just my 2¢... |
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Post by trailboss on Nov 15, 2020 19:54:19 GMT -5
Found another box of 50 .44 magnum FMJ flat nose in my Landcruiser tool box. Maybe I can cut the copper off the flatpoint and score the sides to it can expand? Never tried that. If asked. I’d say “Don’t.” You’d wind up with bullets of widely varying weights and lousy flight characteristics. Another consideration, while I am unaware of any court case that was decided on the basis of the use of handloaded ammunition used in a self-defense shooting, there would be glee on the prosecutor’s face if someone took factory ammo and “modified” it to make it more deadly. Just my 2¢... A sentiment echoed by Tom Gresham, Massad Ayoob, and some lawyers that defend others in court echo the same sentiment. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 15, 2020 20:26:18 GMT -5
Found another box of 50 .44 magnum FMJ flat nose in my Landcruiser tool box. Maybe I can cut the copper off the flatpoint and score the sides to it can expand? Never tried that. It's a 44. It is already expanded. |
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Post by bonanzadriver on Nov 15, 2020 22:46:17 GMT -5
Eeek! 9mm ammo is up to $1/round here... ... IF you're lucky enough to find it. Yipes! I have $1500.00 worth of 9mm then! Still a chump amount of what I should have on hand of that caliber. My 6 magazines for the Hellcat came from Midway USA this week, the wife was asking where the heck her P238 mags are... must order. Same here bud. Not to mention similar amounts of 45, 380, and many many others. ;-) |
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Post by toshtego on Nov 15, 2020 22:51:42 GMT -5
Found another box of 50 .44 magnum FMJ flat nose in my Landcruiser tool box. Maybe I can cut the copper off the flatpoint and score the sides to it can expand? Never tried that. If asked. I’d say “Don’t.” You’d wind up with bullets of widely varying weights and lousy flight characteristics. Another consideration, while I am unaware of any court case that was decided on the basis of the use of handloaded ammunition used in a self-defense shooting, there would be glee on the prosecutor’s face if someone took factory ammo and “modified” it to make it more deadly. Just my 2¢... That is good advice. I was thinking more about hunting with my Deerfield Carbine. It would be hard to cut the nose clean enough to not destabilize in flight. |
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