jay
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Edward's Pipes....only Edward's pipes....and Buccaneer in the bowl
Posts: 442 
First Name: Jay
Favorite Pipe: Edwards handmade
Favorite Tobacco: Buccaneer, Special Balkan, Scottish Moor
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Post by jay on Nov 15, 2020 23:22:44 GMT -5
Fortunately, despite not being a semi auto, I can still pour ff black powder or pyrodex down the barrel of the .76 smooth ore flintlock trade gun and follow it with either lead shot or round ball.
'Course, the gun is five feet long and not especially concealable, but I can still get powder.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 16, 2020 7:22:46 GMT -5
If asked. I’d say “Don’t.” You’d wind up with bullets of widely varying weights and lousy flight characteristics. Another consideration, while I am unaware of any court case that was decided on the basis of the use of handloaded ammunition used in a self-defense shooting, there would be glee on the prosecutor’s face if someone took factory ammo and “modified” it to make it more deadly. Just my 2¢... That is good advice. I was thinking more about hunting with my Deerfield Carbine. It would be hard to cut the nose clean enough to not destabilize in flight. They make a hollow pointing tool, but it's expensive and I doubt it's effectiveness. All you need is a couple of rounds of soft points for hunting. You can use the full FMJ for the coup de gras. |
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 16, 2020 9:15:53 GMT -5
Check out BUFFALO BORE and see if they have anything.
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Post by toshtego on Nov 16, 2020 9:44:02 GMT -5
Check out BUFFALO BORE and see if they have anything. I have BB ammo. Mostly use it in the Redhawk. The Deerfield is limited to cartridges with 265 grain bullets. Bigger than that and they will not load in the magazine. Ditto those rubber tipped Spitzers. They can be breech loaded individually and I have done that. A 285 grain whopper followed by four standard 240 grain cartridges in the magazine. The other issue is overpowering the action operating rod. I do not know how much it can take. |
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Post by toshtego on Nov 16, 2020 10:57:02 GMT -5
^^^^^^^^^^ Naturally no one I have spoken with at Ruger High Command has any idea what I am asking about.....
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Post by lizardonarock on Nov 16, 2020 12:51:46 GMT -5
Your already on the do not answer list as Ruger ?
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Post by toshtego on Nov 16, 2020 13:39:12 GMT -5
Your already on the do not answer list as Ruger ? Could be! I find it hard to reach people who are knowledgeable. They seem to have "Flack Catchers" answering the telephones. |
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Post by slickshooter on Dec 23, 2020 23:18:25 GMT -5
 My S&W M&P 9mm that I use in 3 gun events up here in Canada |
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 23, 2020 23:34:43 GMT -5
My S&W M&P 9mm that I use in 3 gun events up here in Canada I thought the official Canadian position was “You’ll shoot your eye out!” |
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Post by slickshooter on Dec 24, 2020 0:55:04 GMT -5
Lol. Depends what part of Canada you are from
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Post by toshtego on Dec 25, 2020 12:07:59 GMT -5
So my host last night at dinner brought his Beretta .25. Neat little gun. Light as a feather and easy to carry.
He also showed me his Series 70 .38 Super with the new Match Barrel. What a beautiful gun that was. Stag Horn grips.
Got me thinking about small autos again. Maybe a 7.62 mm?
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Post by bigwoolie on Dec 25, 2020 12:34:52 GMT -5
I had a Navy Seal teach me many years ago that the mindset in combat is always that your hand gun should have only one purpose...to get you safely to your truck, where your real battle weapon awaits.
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Post by trailboss on Dec 25, 2020 15:21:42 GMT -5
I had a Navy Seal teach me many years ago that the mindset in combat is always that your hand gun should have only one purpose...to get you safely to your truck, where your real battle weapon awaits. That is good advice. For years my trunk gun was an M1 carbine with 30 round mags jungle clipped. |
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Post by bigwoolie on Dec 25, 2020 15:35:19 GMT -5
I had a Navy Seal teach me many years ago that the mindset in combat is always that your hand gun should have only one purpose...to get you safely to your truck, where your real battle weapon awaits. That is good advice. For years my trunk gun was an M1 carbine with 30 round mags jungle clipped. Ive got a short, Winchester 1886 saddle carbine, .45-70, that's my truck gun. There is a leather saddle scabbard that is rigged up and hangs permanent behind the back seat of my truck. It holds 7+1, and Ive proven over the years just how effective I can be with it. There is also a spare box of shells there as well. Also, if 1 day I do get pulled over and it is discovered by the officers, they are much less likely to be surprised or threatend to find this in the truck of an old, bearded, cigar-smoking cowboy than they would something like an AR. There are always many factors to consider. |
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Post by toshtego on Dec 25, 2020 15:57:57 GMT -5
the chances of my needing a battle weapon are small. I keep a Krag carbine in the truck with two boxes of ammo. Never had a reason to pull it out except to scatter coyotes during lambing/kidding.
I seldom feel the need to pack a gun but can and will when needed.
Knife, hatchet, seem more appropriate for the threat level I see most commonly. Some low life hassling me for a handout. I do not mind helping strangers when they are reasonably sober and look me in the eye.
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Post by instymp on Dec 25, 2020 18:39:28 GMT -5
So my host last night at dinner brought his Beretta .25. Neat little gun. Light as a feather and easy to carry. He also showed me his Series 70 .38 Super with the new Match Barrel. What a beautiful gun that was. Stag Horn grips. Got me thinking about small autos again. Maybe a 7.62 mm? Don't look at the Baretta tomcat then.  I still think they are cool. Wish I never sold my Keltec 32. But love my LCP. Pocket type stuff. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 25, 2020 18:45:34 GMT -5
So my host last night at dinner brought his Beretta .25. Neat little gun. Light as a feather and easy to carry. He also showed me his Series 70 .38 Super with the new Match Barrel. What a beautiful gun that was. Stag Horn grips. Got me thinking about small autos again. Maybe a 7.62 mm? Don't look at the Baretta tomcat then. I have a Tomcat. It's a fine gun. What do you not like about it? |
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Post by instymp on Dec 25, 2020 18:48:06 GMT -5
I always liked the look & the way they work. Never owned one but would like one. But dont need, just want
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 25, 2020 18:48:10 GMT -5
Teeny-weeny auto pistols are very useful. As paperweights.
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Post by instymp on Dec 25, 2020 18:51:42 GMT -5
Depends on who carries the paper. Better than a sharp stick, or knife.
Sometimes I don't want to carry the bigger stuff, I hate carrying a wallet
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 25, 2020 19:29:59 GMT -5
I've never had any volunteers to be shot with one.
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Post by Gandalf on Dec 25, 2020 19:33:22 GMT -5
Teeny-weeny auto pistols are very useful. As paperweights. Yes, I read once that "Friends don't let friends carry mouse guns". (Massad Ayoob) My personal opinion - I won't carry anything smaller than a 9mm. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 25, 2020 19:35:44 GMT -5
Caliber chauvinists are everywhere.
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Post by toshtego on Dec 25, 2020 20:18:58 GMT -5
Caliber chauvinists are everywhere. Right. These are the people who leave the gun at home because it is too heavy and bulky to carry ALL of the time. |
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Post by toshtego on Dec 26, 2020 19:04:42 GMT -5
Bidding on a Walther M4 7.62 from the 1920s. I do not expect to win the auction, but it is fun to participate and jack up the price, Bwashahahaha.
A survey of ammo sellers on line tell me that 7.62 mm, 32 ACP, ammo is fairly hard to find.
Over the years I have owned Spanish and French 7.62. A very popular cartridge in Yerup before the war. That would be WWII, The Big War, as Dobbie's Dad used to say.
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 26, 2020 22:51:21 GMT -5
I'm not too impressed with the .32ACP. Not sure anybody you shot with it would be either. The Nazis liked it b/c it was cheap and worked fine in the back of the head.
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Post by toshtego on Dec 27, 2020 9:37:27 GMT -5
I'm not too impressed with the .32ACP. Not sure anybody you shot with it would be either. The Nazis liked it b/c it was cheap and worked fine in the back of the head. Not meaning to be argumentative with a friend here but I have to ask if you have had any self defense experience with this caliber out of a 3.5 inch barrel? As you know, it is about shot placement. I am reminded of the lady in San Francisco I read about many years ago who stopped her hefty attacker with one shot from a Colt .25 ACP. Through the forehead at about 7 feet. For me the point is somewhat moot as I was outbid overnight and am not likely to raise. Too bad. The Model 4 is a nice pistol. |
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Post by toshtego on Dec 27, 2020 10:05:05 GMT -5
The effective difference between a .32 ACP and .380 is not as significant as the reduction in felt recoil allowing for a faster second shot. I had a Walther PPKS and the recoil was significant. I imagine, but do not know other than from watching a You Tube video, the Model 4 fires faster.
Certainly, these are not .45 ACP in stopping power which is closer to your original point. They are meant to be easily carried and always present. My days of wearing a 1911 on my hip all day are long past. I think about which gun will fit best in the wheel chair I am heading for. I have my old Colt Cobra!!!
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 27, 2020 11:38:13 GMT -5
John— didn't see your post as argumentative in the least. Just gun-chat. I know that some ammo companies have been working on ALL the semis, even the little ones. Today's 380s and 32s ain't your grandfathers' guns, for sure. Having the gun WITH you is critical, of course. And a light, compact weapon is so much more likely to make that come true. And that's a good thing. But I guess I'm just kinda fixated on big, heavy bullets which, unfortunately require big heavy guns. But my Commander-sized .45, loaded, weighs less than a full-size 1911 empty. I wish it were lighter still— until I shoot it anyway. But the weight has become a usual thing, hardly noticed anymore. And for a wheel-chair? How hard would it be to have a 12ga melded into the hand-rest? |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 14, 2021 17:43:06 GMT -5
Just a note that AIM Surplus has a lot of ammo in stock at good prices.
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I still think they are cool.
