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Post by toshtego on Aug 20, 2022 17:55:47 GMT -5
^^^ Thanks. I appreciate that explanation. I had a feeling the shorter case length was a contributor. I did not think about rifle weight.
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 20, 2022 18:50:11 GMT -5
Shorter case lengths have come about due to improvements in powder. The 30-06 is almost 120 years old, since it derived from the original 30-03. It’s still a superb game rifle, but the 308 meets and beats it until the very big bullets for that caliber that start taking up too much powder-space at about 180 grains. Same for 7x57 Mauser (long action) and 7-08 (short action). I cut my teeth on 30-06s, and still have ‘em, but the 308 and the 7-08 have pretty much taken over. But I have an all-stainless, composition stock 30-06 that gets the nod when the weather fails to cooperate. It never lets me down. (Apologies to those who find this kinda talk boring or even offensive. Just tune me out. I don’t mind.)  |
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Post by trailboss on Aug 20, 2022 19:56:30 GMT -5
I had a day at the range a few years back that was a real eye opening day about the accuracy some must achieve as skilled marksmen with good rifles, and skilled at creating loads for accuracy. I am neither, and at 100 yards, the 8 rounds of milsurp ammo in my m1 Garand with iron sights, the rounds were not much out of the range of a quarter.
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Post by Gypo on Aug 20, 2022 20:57:32 GMT -5
Also, my ten inch iron skillet which I cooked with for almost 50 years, well, it cracked, long. Very sad. I have a 12 or 13 inch Lodge which is heavier. So I am ok but that ten was a nice size. I really like the 10 inch also. My mother in law gave me cash one Christmas and I went and got a large label Griswold 10 inch with the correct skillet cover a out $100 money well spent. |
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Post by trailboss on Aug 20, 2022 23:54:43 GMT -5
I heard on the news tonight that in 2019, half of the cancer related deaths in the USA could have been prevented if not for people smoking and drinking.
Covid hit our shores in January of 2019 and it was not long thereafter cancer screenings and procedures critical to detection were all but halted. I heard plenty of stories in the news at the time, and had friends inside and outside of the pipe club that were harmed by the new protocols. And “early detection” has always been the battle cry against cancer.
So how come smoking and drinking did not cause half of the cancer deaths in 2017, and 2018?
People in high places think that we are incredibly stupid, and the people in the media continue to carry the water.
And the beat goes on…
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 21, 2022 0:32:53 GMT -5
I heard on the news tonight that in 2019, half of the cancer related deaths in the USA could have been prevented if not for people smoking and drinking. Covid hit our shores in January of 2019 and it was not long thereafter cancer screenings and procedures critical to detection were all but halted. I heard plenty of stories in the news at the time, and had friends inside and outside of the pipe club that were harmed by the new protocols. And “early detection” has always been the battle cry against cancer. So how come smoking and drinking did not cause half of the cancer deaths in 2017, and 2018? People in high places think that we are incredibly stupid, and the people in the media continue to carry the water. And the beat goes on… I was just reading about the Homestake mine Superfund sight. It's a closed uranium mine that has polluted the air with radon and the water with radiation. Instead of cleaning it up they are forcibly buying out the locals homes for a fraction of the going rate. The government has no business lecturing us about anything. |
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Post by toshtego on Aug 21, 2022 5:44:39 GMT -5
Shorter case lengths have come about due to improvements in powder. The 30-06 is almost 120 years old, since it derived from the original 30-03. It’s still a superb game rifle, but the 308 meets and beats it until the very big bullets for that caliber that start taking up too much powder-space at about 180 grains. Same for 7x57 Mauser (long action) and 7-08 (short action). I cut my teeth on 30-06s, and still have ‘em, but the 308 and the 7-08 have pretty much taken over. But I have an all-stainless, composition stock 30-06 that gets the nod when the weather fails to cooperate. It never lets me down. (Apologies to those who find this kinda talk boring or even offensive. Just tune me out. I don’t mind.) I was fond of the .30-06 and owned several in Bolt, Lever and Semi-Auto. For the stronger action in modern rifles, I took advantage of the case length to reach .300 H & H Specs and nearing the original .300 Win Mag. My favorite shooter was just a Remington made '03-A3 Sporter with the original iron peep sight. I kept the loads at original game specs. A Winchester 1895 was my handiest and, again, lower pressure loads. The 7-08 sounds like the right gun for deer. Elk are the game most frequently found here although the Mulies are making a slow come back. Magnum cartridge rifles are the most popular here. Open ranges mean 300 to 400+ yard shooting from a rest on a stand. Some of the old guys use .270 Winchester on elk in woodsier cover. They are skilled stalking hunters. So, a 7-08 would be right at home. I will have to read up on that load. |
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Post by toshtego on Aug 21, 2022 13:48:39 GMT -5
Back from moving water from farms to farms. There is one headgate I have to wade into the water to open since the owner is to cheap to install a proper Waterman Wheel Gate. So, I get my feet and legs bathed. Irrigation water tests clean enough. Our growers have to get it tested regularly for their food crops.
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Post by just ol ed on Aug 21, 2022 14:44:39 GMT -5
hope all doing well today. Coke at desk, BB1938 in LaughingBachhus meer in smoking room. (to clean & rest tonite for a day). nap next, then small sups.
78, clouding up, max 82, high % rain due
Ed Duncan, Batavia, NY
will take eny amt of rain headed here
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Post by urbino on Aug 21, 2022 20:44:41 GMT -5
Worked, and now I've got some more tinkering to do with the new safe. Trying out different configurations to get all my crap organized.
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 21, 2022 21:39:37 GMT -5
John, I had a saddle-ring carbine 1895 in 30-06. I hated it. It kicked like an angry mule. Swapped it for a 1892 Winchester SRC in 44-40 and never looked back. We both thought we got the best end of that swap. I just hope it didn’t beat the poor guy to death.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 21, 2022 22:12:17 GMT -5
At the AussieFloyd show, they actually put on a better show than Pink Floyd did near the end of their touring.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 21, 2022 22:42:27 GMT -5
At the AussieFloyd show, they actually put on a better show than Pink Floyd did near the end of their touring. The closest I ever got to Pink Floyd was the parking lot outside Jeppenson Stadium at the UofH in 1970. |
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Post by toshtego on Aug 21, 2022 23:15:11 GMT -5
John, I had a saddle-ring carbine 1895 in 30-06. I hated it. It kicked like an angry mule. Swapped it for a 1892 Winchester SRC in 44-40 and never looked back. We both thought we got the best end of that swap. I just hope it didn’t beat the poor guy to death. Mine was a 24 inch barrel. Recoil was noticeable but not punishing. That provided the butt stock was seated properly like any high power rifle. I used mostly mil-spec fmj ammo for targets and hunted with 150 grain Remington and Winchester ammo. Nothing very special. I am sorry I sold it as I am about every dang blasted firearm I have parted with over the decades. I did not want an 1895 in .30-06. I was looking for .30-40 or .303 but never found one. So, I settled on the '06. How TR shot them so well in .405 is beyond me. That must have been punishing. Maybe the powder back then burned slow enough to not kicj a hard as modern propellents? |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 22, 2022 4:58:32 GMT -5
Another week started...last week was mental with a kids club every evening plus my normal duties through the day. Hoping for a quieter week this week - although with a wedding on Friday it'll be a little bit busier.
Have a great week y'all.
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 22, 2022 8:43:32 GMT -5
One-hundred years ago today, 22 August 1922, Micheál Ó Coileáin, AKA Michael Collins, was shot and killed in an IRA ambush at Bealnablath, County Cork. It was a truly tragic day for Ireland. In addition to the loss of the newly formed Free State’s de facto head of government, it opened the door for De Valera to turn Ireland into a quasi dictatorship for the next decades.  |
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Post by Gypo on Aug 22, 2022 8:56:05 GMT -5
John, I had a saddle-ring carbine 1895 in 30-06. I hated it. It kicked like an angry mule. Swapped it for a 1892 Winchester SRC in 44-40 and never looked back. We both thought we got the best end of that swap. I just hope it didn’t beat the poor guy to death. Mine was a 24 inch barrel. Recoil was noticeable but not punishing. That provided the butt stock was seated properly like any high power rifle. I used mostly mil-spec fmj ammo for targets and hunted with 150 grain Remington and Winchester ammo. Nothing very special. I am sorry I sold it as I am about every dang blasted firearm I have parted with over the decades. I did not want an 1895 in .30-06. I was looking for .30-40 or .303 but never found one. So, I settled on the '06. How TR shot them so well in .405 is beyond me. That must have been punishing. Maybe the powder back then burned slow enough to not kicj a hard as modern propellents? I have a 95 carbine in 30-06 from 1916 or 1917. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 22, 2022 10:27:43 GMT -5
Another week started...last week was mental with a kids club every evening plus my normal duties through the day. Hoping for a quieter week this week - although with a wedding on Friday it'll be a little bit busier. Have a great week y'all. Did Stephen behave? |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 22, 2022 10:30:07 GMT -5
John, I had a saddle-ring carbine 1895 in 30-06. I hated it. It kicked like an angry mule. Swapped it for a 1892 Winchester SRC in 44-40 and never looked back. We both thought we got the best end of that swap. I just hope it didn’t beat the poor guy to death. Mine was a 24 inch barrel. Recoil was noticeable but not punishing. That provided the butt stock was seated properly like any high power rifle. I used mostly mil-spec fmj ammo for targets and hunted with 150 grain Remington and Winchester ammo. Nothing very special. I am sorry I sold it as I am about every dang blasted firearm I have parted with over the decades. I did not want an 1895 in .30-06. I was looking for .30-40 or .303 but never found one. So, I settled on the '06. How TR shot them so well in .405 is beyond me. That must have been punishing. Maybe the powder back then burned slow enough to not kicj a hard as modern propellents? Teddy was tougher than the normal man. He's my hero. That 1895 would be great rebored to 400 Whelan. 😜😎 |
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Post by toshtego on Aug 22, 2022 10:30:54 GMT -5
One-hundred years ago today, 22 August 1922, Micheál Ó Coileáin, AKA Michael Collins, was shot and killed in an IRA ambush at Bealnablath, County Cork. It was a truly tragic day for Ireland. In addition to the loss of the newly formed Free State’s de facto head of government, it opened the door for De Valera to turn Ireland into a quasi dictatorship for the next decades. I remember from reading his biography years ago. I am not certain how to "evaluate" De Valera. He did bring order among the factions but at what cost? What was the alternative with Collins dead? I wonder? |
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 22, 2022 10:51:08 GMT -5
De Valera brought “order” to the dis-order HE had created. After the British legal massacre of the leaders of the 1916 rebellion there were few “biggies” left. How bad the situation was is made clear thru Collins and De Valera being the “last men standing.”
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 22, 2022 12:37:25 GMT -5
Another week started...last week was mental with a kids club every evening plus my normal duties through the day. Hoping for a quieter week this week - although with a wedding on Friday it'll be a little bit busier. Have a great week y'all. Did Stephen behave? He was crazy. He was in everything, but you can't get mad at him...He's a loveable wee character. |
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Post by toshtego on Aug 22, 2022 12:56:14 GMT -5
All this rain softened the hillside above the main irrigation supply ditch. Boulders blocking water flow. Six to seven foot diameter basalt. Excavator work to clear. More heavy rain predicted for later this week. There is one boulder larger than a car about to come down. That might mean a dynamiter or drill rig to break up boulder for moving. Access is limited by road only six feet wide with water on both sides, soft with the flooding.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 22, 2022 13:15:10 GMT -5
He was crazy. He was in everything, but you can't get mad at him...He's a loveable wee character. 👍 👍 💖 |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 22, 2022 13:19:55 GMT -5
We've had 6 inches of rain so far and it's still raining. The pond is up 3 feet from yesterday. Had to go to Shreveport this morning with rain all the way.
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Post by adui on Aug 22, 2022 13:55:21 GMT -5
I heard on the news tonight that in 2019, half of the cancer related deaths in the USA could have been prevented if not for people smoking and drinking. Covid hit our shores in January of 2019 and it was not long thereafter cancer screenings and procedures critical to detection were all but halted. I heard plenty of stories in the news at the time, and had friends inside and outside of the pipe club that were harmed by the new protocols. And “early detection” has always been the battle cry against cancer. So how come smoking and drinking did not cause half of the cancer deaths in 2017, and 2018? People in high places think that we are incredibly stupid, and the people in the media continue to carry the water. And the beat goes on… Sadly Charlie, in today's world many of the common people ARE incredibly stupid. We are spoon-fed information and misinformation at the whim of the media and government and far too many folks just believe it. After all, I read it on the internet or saw it on YouTube so it must be real. Makes me glad I'm in the second half o my life and not just the beginning. |
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Post by urbino on Aug 22, 2022 17:15:10 GMT -5
All this rain softened the hillside above the main irrigation supply ditch. Boulders blocking water flow. Six to seven foot diameter basalt. Excavator work to clear. More heavy rain predicted for later this week. There is one boulder larger than a car about to come down. That might mean a dynamiter or drill rig to break up boulder for moving. Access is limited by road only six feet wide with water on both sides, soft with the flooding. Gitcha a pry bar and go to work, man! You gubmint bureaucrats are all alike. |
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Post by toshtego on Aug 22, 2022 18:25:11 GMT -5
All this rain softened the hillside above the main irrigation supply ditch. Boulders blocking water flow. Six to seven foot diameter basalt. Excavator work to clear. More heavy rain predicted for later this week. There is one boulder larger than a car about to come down. That might mean a dynamiter or drill rig to break up boulder for moving. Access is limited by road only six feet wide with water on both sides, soft with the flooding. Gitcha a pry bar and go to work, man! You gubmint bureaucrats are all alike. This is way beyond a pry bar. I have an excavator scheduled for Sunday. Hopefully, the jumbo boulder will not wash down. It is teetering. So I have been reading up on Non-Explosive Demolition Agents such as "Dexpan" and "Dynacam". Expansive agents at 10,000 to 18,000 PSI. Drill holes, fill holes, wait a day and now there are bunch of smaller boulders which can be moved. Drilling holes in basalt means a Carbide Conical Tooth Profile Hole Opener and a hydraulic or pneumatic drill. Dynamite not practical because the shock wave would likely bring down the side of the mesa with its many car sized boulders. Anyone with very hard rock mining experience or drilling, please comment.
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Post by adui on Aug 23, 2022 20:38:09 GMT -5
Good evening Patch. I thought I'd post just a greeting to my pipe family to bump this post. I hope all of you are doing well this fine Tuesday evening.
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Post by toshtego on Aug 23, 2022 20:42:33 GMT -5
Good evening Patch. I thought I'd post just a greeting to my pipe family to bump this post. I hope all of you are doing well this fine Tuesday evening. Thank you, sir. The sentiment returned X 10. A lovely August day and evening. High of about 72 degrees, sunny with  clouds. Perfect day! |
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