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Post by toshtego on Aug 26, 2022 21:33:18 GMT -5
Flooding has worsened. I have just about every irrigation gate open to divert water from the swollen canal. Creek flood plain is inundated. The morons who have houses there will wish they were somewhere else.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 26, 2022 21:58:54 GMT -5
That is a bummer, John. I will pray for those in peril.
I lived in Schertz Tx. In the mid 70’s, our backyard was on a bluff, the Guadalupe overflowed and it looked like lakefront property with mobile homes drifting by.
I never want to live anywhere near getting flooded, it looks like a nightmare to deal with.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 26, 2022 22:25:04 GMT -5
That is a bummer, John. I will pray for those in peril. I lived in Schertz Tx. In the mid 70’s, our backyard was on a bluff, the Guadalupe overflowed and it looked like lakefront property with mobile homes drifting by. I never want to live anywhere near getting flooded, it looks like a nightmare to deal with. Does it seem like desert areas are flooding more these days?
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Post by trailboss on Aug 27, 2022 1:09:14 GMT -5
That is a bummer, John. I will pray for those in peril. I lived in Schertz Tx. In the mid 70’s, our backyard was on a bluff, the Guadalupe overflowed and it looked like lakefront property with mobile homes drifting by. I never want to live anywhere near getting flooded, it looks like a nightmare to deal with. Does it seem like desert areas are flooding more these days? People that live near washes and such, and out in the country, yes. In the developed areas, underground water retention engineering is pretty impressive, for all the land that is developed, whatever water is shed, pretty much goes to the aquifer.
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Post by urbino on Aug 27, 2022 1:58:27 GMT -5
Flooding has worsened. I have just about every irrigation gate open to divert water from the swollen canal. Creek flood plain is inundated. The morons who have houses there will wish they were somewhere else. If you can divert some of it to NV or CA, they'd probably pay a pretty penny for it. Hope it doesn't become too much of a headache for you, John.
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Post by urbino on Aug 27, 2022 2:00:01 GMT -5
That is a bummer, John. I will pray for those in peril. I lived in Schertz Tx. In the mid 70’s, our backyard was on a bluff, the Guadalupe overflowed and it looked like lakefront property with mobile homes drifting by. I never want to live anywhere near getting flooded, it looks like a nightmare to deal with. Same. Very much so. When I was looking for an apartment to move here, I passed over the ones down in the Wolf River flood plain and found a place up on the high ground.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 27, 2022 8:03:00 GMT -5
In Ireland we're used to rain, so flooding is something that we don't often have. When it snows, however, we're at a standstill.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 27, 2022 8:22:51 GMT -5
Another morning on the mountain.
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 27, 2022 9:04:45 GMT -5
Only down on the river (the Platte) is flooding ever an issue here. We’re all sand so if we get an H2O overage (ha!) it all sinks down into the aquifer and is gone almost instantly. Some of our farmers and ranchers would like a little flooding about now. Been a while since water has dropped from the sky. My weeds are thirsty but I ain’t about to water ‘em!
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Post by oldcajun123 on Aug 27, 2022 9:16:56 GMT -5
Crop duster spraying my cane early this morning, they spray to stop it from growing sending more sugar down the stalk, Rice farmers here having 50% of their crops destroyed by rain, wife has been housebound for 4 days because of heavy rains, lull in rain she’s going to Lafayette to shop, she’s like a racehorse at the gate, DONT get in her way. HaHa Had a nice Arturo Fuentes Rothchild with coffe while having Cropduster at roof level, break in rain letting him do his job.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 27, 2022 11:05:07 GMT -5
Does it seem like desert areas are flooding more these days? People that live near washes and such, and out in the country, yes. In the developed areas, underground water retention engineering is pretty impressive, for all the land that is developed, whatever water is shed, pretty much goes to the aquifer. Houston passed all kinds of laws about water retention and houses having to be elevated, but most builders are not doing it. Many thousands of acres of rice paddies and cane fields are now subdivisions and strip malls. They have built apartments on the side of Buffalo Bayou where I've seen the water 15 feet deep. I was just looking at pictures of the flooding in Pakistan and it looks exactly like Houston during Harvey.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 27, 2022 11:47:37 GMT -5
If the builders are being allowed to circumvent the laws, then they should be held liable when the inevitable happens. It seems like yesterday that Houston had massive flooding. Here, in the residential neighborhoods there are plenty of greenbelt areas excavated as catchments, and they are pretty effective. They generally work very well when they fill up, by weeks end the water is absorbed into the aquifer. When I worked in waterworks, we had a project where a Frys (Kroger) was the Anchor store at a large development. All of these yellow modular pieces were direct shipped to the site from the manufacturer, and were under what would be the parking lot when the job is done, some sites use huge perforated pipes to do the same. It is a really effective way to limit flooding. There were other places on the property where the same was done, as a developer you are responsible for making sure that your development does not send the water that cannot be absorbed by the asphalt and concrete, down the road. The petroleum industry is demonized, but we can thank them for this type of product that benefit us. We still have problems in the greater Phoenix area to be sure, mostly in the older neighborhoods that predate current requirements for building. We have some huge washes traversing the area that are no problem to drive through 99% of the time, but during that 1%, are impassable and county workers close the gates, resulting in a lot of re-routed traffic. Glad I live nowhere near them places.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 27, 2022 11:54:20 GMT -5
Every commercial building in Houston since the 70s is built with the underground catchments, but it's not enough to offset the loss of land to pavement. What would happen if Phoenix got 20 inches of rain in one day?
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 27, 2022 11:55:52 GMT -5
Phoenix would be in Tucson.
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Post by toshtego on Aug 27, 2022 12:05:10 GMT -5
Crop duster spraying my cane early this morning, they spray to stop it from growing sending more sugar down the stalk, Rice farmers here having 50% of their crops destroyed by rain, wife has been housebound for 4 days because of heavy rains, lull in rain she’s going to Lafayette to shop, she’s like a racehorse at the gate, DONT get in her way. HaHa Had a nice Arturo Fuentes Rothchild with coffe while having Cropduster at roof level, break in rain letting him do his job. I am sorry for the Delta rice farmers. Good stuff!
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Post by trailboss on Aug 27, 2022 12:19:04 GMT -5
Every commercial building in Houston since the 70s is built with the underground catchments, but it's not enough to offset the loss of land to pavement. What would happen if Phoenix got 20 inches of rain in one day? Hopefully that will never happen, them 1,000 year floods are hard to prepare for. The few times I flew in and out of Houston, the thing that impressed me is all of the greenery, and bodies of water, the water table must be up there, and drilling for well water must be an easy task! Not the case here in either regard, but we have predominately caliche soil that is not percolation friendly. In the above pictures, the storm drains in the parking lot feed the underground system first, after they are full the spillway type set up sends the overflow to the storm drains and down to the creeks/ washes.
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Post by sperrytops on Aug 27, 2022 12:47:33 GMT -5
If the builders are being allowed to circumvent the laws, then they should be held liable when the inevitable happens. It seems like yesterday that Houston had massive flooding. Here, in the residential neighborhoods there are plenty of greenbelt areas excavated as catchments, and they are pretty effective. They generally work very well when they fill up, by weeks end the water is absorbed into the aquifer. When I worked in waterworks, we had a project where a Frys (Kroger) was the Anchor store at a large development. All of these yellow modular pieces were direct shipped to the site from the manufacturer, and were under what would be the parking lot when the job is done, some sites use huge perforated pipes to do the same. It is a really effective way to limit flooding. There were other places on the property where the same was done, as a developer you are responsible for making sure that your development does not send the water that cannot be absorbed by the asphalt and concrete, down the road. The petroleum industry is demonized, but we can thank them for this type of product that benefit us. We still have problems in the greater Phoenix area to be sure, mostly in the older neighborhoods that predate current requirements for building. We have some huge washes traversing the area that are no problem to drive through 99% of the time, but during that 1%, are impassable and county workers close the gates, resulting in a lot of re-routed traffic. Glad I live nowhere near them places. Otherwise called French Drains.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 27, 2022 13:33:05 GMT -5
Yep!
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 27, 2022 13:43:32 GMT -5
Every commercial building in Houston since the 70s is built with the underground catchments, but it's not enough to offset the loss of land to pavement. What would happen if Phoenix got 20 inches of rain in one day? Hopefully that will never happen, them 1,000 year floods are hard to prepare for. The few times I flew in and out of Houston, the thing that impressed me is all of the greenery, and bodies of water, the water table must be up there, and drilling for well water must be an easy task! Not the case here in either regard, but we have predominately caliche soil that is not percolation friendly. In the above pictures, the storm drains in the parking lot feed the underground system first, after they are full the spillway type set up sends the overflow to the storm drains and down to the creeks/ washes.
Wells aren't allowed in Harris County, or along the gulf coast in general because of subsidence. It's not the household usage but the industrial usage was out of control. If it was just farms and homes it wouldn't be a problem. If you can't get water any other way you can drill a well, but even that is really expensive. You have to go to at least 300 feet to get clean water. When I was a kid 50 foot wells were common. Where I live now 60 foot wells are common. I can see the water table in the pond in my front yard. My well is 50 or 60 feet, but it's not safe to drink. If I was going to drink it I would have to go to 150 feet. Agricultural runoff and such. I was impressed when flying into Phoenix by all the different colors of dirt. Same with Albuquerque. Here In NE Texas you can't drive a mile without seeing a huge tank, (big cattle pond), lake or creek. There are 4 huge tanks and 4 ponds within a mile of my house. A wet weather creek runs behind us and a bayou is a half mile away. We have a lot of water in this country. If our government was any good we would be working on a national water distribution system to move water from the Mississippi River and Great Lakes to the west where they would be using an Israeli type drip system to produce food and not evaporating most of the little bit of water that they have. We need a bunch of new nuclear reactors too.
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Post by adui on Aug 27, 2022 20:10:35 GMT -5
Every commercial building in Houston since the 70s is built with the underground catchments, but it's not enough to offset the loss of land to pavement. What would happen if Phoenix got 20 inches of rain in one day? In the words of the now infamous Bill Cosby, "Noah... How long can you tread water?"
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Post by urbino on Aug 28, 2022 8:27:08 GMT -5
I rolled over, glanced at the clock, thought I had badly overslept, so I got up, got my shower, etc. Turns out, without my glasses, I misread the clock. So, here I am, scrubbed and wide awake after about 2 hours of sleep.
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Post by toshtego on Aug 28, 2022 19:21:06 GMT -5
Finally able to clear the boulder dam in the irrigation canal. The big one, calculated to be about 4.5 to 5 tons, was a challenge. The medium sized Caterpillar threw threw both rubber tracks trying to move it from the side. We got them back on but it took excavating a trench to get the boulder out by rolling it along.
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Post by adui on Aug 28, 2022 20:58:40 GMT -5
I rolled over, glanced at the clock, and thought I had badly overslept, so I got up, got my shower, etc. Turns out, without my glasses, I misread the clock. So, here I am, scrubbed and wide awake after about 2 hours of sleep. Been there. When I started in manufacturing I works a 12-hour shift, 4 am to 4:30 pm. 3 days one week, 4 the next. 90% of the time on my three-day week I would wake about half an hour after shift would start on the 4th day, I jump out of bed in panic grabbing for clothes as my wife rolled over and said "It's your day off dear, come back to bed" Good thing the navy taught me to sleep whenever I had the opportunity, or I'd have never been able to go back to sleep those days.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 28, 2022 21:22:12 GMT -5
Similar story…
I rolled into Santa Barbara back in 84-85, got to my hotel in Carpinteria, I was beat! Laid down on the bed… next thing I knew the sun was coming up. Freaked out, because I had an early appointment that morning in Compton. I got about 45 minutes down the road before I realized that the sun was setting, not rising… I passed out for a few hours! Parked at a frozen burrito factory outside the gates and got in the sleeper, figured I would wake up at my appointment time. two hours later a cop banged on the door and told me to get the hell out of there, as I would probably be attacked.
Drove out of there, and yes… a lot of spooky looking people on the streets, until I found a safe haven.
A Big Ben windup alarm clock was my next purchase.
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Post by adui on Aug 28, 2022 21:34:47 GMT -5
~Snip~ A Big Ben windup alarm clock was my next purchase. LOL! I remember those things! Had one when I was a teen on the farm. I remember one time when Mom was away visiting dad in San Diego (Dad had gone back into the navy to get his retirement so was away from home in southern Oregon). Being the hoodlum I was then, I had a friend over and my little brother too. We had stayed up WAY too late, and that danged alarm went off for cow milking time way too early. I Slapped it down. When I let go it started ringing again s I slapped it again. Repeat this three times and I got angry and threw it across the room. It bounced off the woodstove and just kept ringing. The cow got milked and the animals fed on time thanks to that annoying clock!
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Post by trailboss on Aug 28, 2022 22:24:53 GMT -5
That clock with the double ringers on top would raise the dead!😉
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Post by Gypo on Aug 28, 2022 23:14:34 GMT -5
I rolled over, glanced at the clock, thought I had badly overslept, so I got up, got my shower, etc. Turns out, without my glasses, I misread the clock. So, here I am, scrubbed and wide awake after about 2 hours of sleep. I have done that freaking old eyes and not having glasses on.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 30, 2022 22:30:15 GMT -5
We've got a real bad guy murderer on the loose. He escaped from the county jail at 7:45 last night. Everyone in town is packing and nervous. We have the local police, sheriff's department, DPS, Texas Rangers and Federal Marshals all swarming the county. He did something so the dogs couldn't pick up his scent. Made a shiv and got the drop on a jailer. No sign of him after more than 24 hours. Plenty of swampy bottoms for him to hide in.
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Post by adui on Aug 30, 2022 22:32:13 GMT -5
We've got a real bad guy murderer on the loose. He escaped from the county jail at 7:45 last night. Everyone in town is packing and nervous. We have the local police, sheriff's department, DPS, Texas Rangers and Federal Marshals all swarming the county. He did something so the dogs couldn't pick up his scent. Made a shiv and got the drop on a jailer. No sign of him after more than 24 hours. Plenty of swampy bottoms for him to hide in. Time to keep your gun close I am afraid...
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Post by trailboss on Aug 30, 2022 22:35:54 GMT -5
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