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Post by oldcajun123 on Aug 2, 2019 9:42:05 GMT -5
  Becker Mortas, bought several years ago, not inexpensive, darker they are the older they are, these are over 5000 yrs old,
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Post by qmechanics on Aug 3, 2019 4:45:09 GMT -5
Hi Well, I did a bit more digging and Morta, Bog Oak, is found in Poland. Turkiewicz (The same name as on the eBay sellers account) also appears to be a Polish carver associated with Mr Brog pipes and has his own brand. www.balandis.store/listing/661555472/smoking-pipe-by-turkiewicz-handmade newsmokingpipes.net/tag/turkiewicz/www.mrbrog.co/history.htmlNote: When I wrote him, he replied that his name is Robert. The person named in the last link about Mr Brog pipe history etc. is Robert Turkiewicz. The Name R. Turkiewicz is also found in other links. It sounds like the same guy. I looked up a past correspondence. There and in his eBay description, He names himself as the Carver. He also stated to me that the Bog Oak, Morta is from Poland. I want to take the pipe through a few more bowls before commenting on them. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 3, 2019 5:33:44 GMT -5
Hi Well, I did a bit more digging and Morta, Bog Oak, is found in Poland. Turkiewicz (The same name as on the eBay sellers account) also appears to be a Polish carver associated with Mr Brog pipes and has his own brand. www.balandis.store/listing/661555472/smoking-pipe-by-turkiewicz-handmadenewsmokingpipes.net/tag/turkiewicz/www.mrbrog.co/history.htmlNote When I wrote him, he replied that his name is Robert. The person named in the last link about Mr Brog pipe history etc. is Robert Turkiewicz. The Name R. Turkiewicz is also found in other links. It sounds like the same guy. I looked up a past correspondence. There and in his eBay description, He names himself as the Carver. He also stated to me that the Bog Oak, Morta is from Poland. I want to take the pipe through a few more bowls before commenting on them. Interesting info. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the pipes. |
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Post by ben888 on Aug 4, 2019 8:13:44 GMT -5
So, those are from the same carver? 1 and 2 |
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Post by qmechanics on Aug 6, 2019 4:57:18 GMT -5
I have smoked a few bowls through two pipes that are still not properly broken in. As a result, I will give a quick statement on what I have learned so far. The pipes are decent mechanically, fairly good smokers with no pipe gurgle. The stems are certainly on the cheaper side. The bowls, on otherwise similar shape/size pipes, vary much more than I would have thought. So pay attention to the bowl size when bidding. Though I still leave room for correction, I believe these are Bog Oak pipes (for reasons mentioned previously.);Probably of a lesser grade and younger than some, certainly more rustic in appearance.
As most things on eBay, it appears either folks are finding out and bidding more or the pipes' sales are experiencing a high mark right now. As such, I would wait, watch and be patient before bidding.
If you are not ready or willing to take the plunge, I perfectly understand. Hopefully, a few more folks will try one or more of these pipes and respond to this thread with their thoughts. A larger sample size is certainly a good idea as my two pipes are hardly a guarantee of similar characteristics for all. In my order, I bought a few more than the two mentioned. As I gain more experience with the pipes, I will tell you any further impressions.
Note:I look at the pipes as an experimental set and plan on putting them to good use to test different blends as well as to handle Lakelands and other blend types that might fowl my briars. Hopefully outlasting the cobs I have for similar duties..
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 6, 2019 7:24:28 GMT -5
Becker Mortas, bought several years ago, not inexpensive, darker they are the older they are, these are over 5000 yrs old, There's a house and car payment, I have a Becker Morta pipe. It is Excellent of course, but I am afraid to smoke it very often because it is the most expensive pipe I own and it makes me feel bad for spending that much on a pipe. Do, I forgot about it. I paid $160 for the Don Warren and the Davorin was a gift from a forum friend. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 6, 2019 7:29:34 GMT -5
In my experience, morta pipes are as broken in as they are going to get after one bowl.
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Post by qmechanics on Aug 6, 2019 8:00:22 GMT -5
In my experience, morta pipes are as broken in as they are going to get after one bowl. Fair enough, though I noticed a bit of a difference as I smoked a few bowls of the same or similar blends. This left me wondering if it was my palate or the pipe? PS I do have another nicer Morta for comparison. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 6, 2019 8:03:07 GMT -5
Any pipe will get build up in the shank that will flavor the next bowl. You can still ghost morta, but it's easier to remove.
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Post by qmechanics on Aug 6, 2019 8:11:18 GMT -5
Any pipe will get build up in the shank that will flavor the next bowl. You can still ghost morta, but it's easier to remove. Pipe 101, I understand these things. However my experience, with these pipes, was a bit different in a way that might be explained by the rawness, treatment of the bowl. I also give my pipes a bit of a cleaning after each smoke and then some rest as a matter of habit. I would not discount your idea (Maybe my cleaning job was not as thorough as it needed to be.) or my palate changing as possibilities. Still I have a thought that it might be something other. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 6, 2019 8:19:55 GMT -5
I was just throwing it out there. Still waiting to hear the final verdict from you. Well, I probably won't be buying one regardless, but I am still curious.
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Post by qmechanics on Aug 6, 2019 8:28:26 GMT -5
I was just throwing it out there. Still waiting to hear the final verdict from you. Well, I probably won't be buying one regardless, but I am still curious. I appreciate it anytime. I was hoping you might take a stab at one, if the price is right, to compare notes.  However, I perfectly understand if you do not wish to do so. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 6, 2019 8:40:47 GMT -5
I was just throwing it out there. Still waiting to hear the final verdict from you. Well, I probably won't be buying one regardless, but I am still curious. I appreciate it anytime. I was hoping you might take a stab at one, if the price is right, to compare notes. However, I perfectly understand if you do not wish to do so. I have almost 200 pipes, and at least 60 are world class top of the line. I have $1000 worth of morta pipes that I don't smoke more than once a year. I just can't justify ANY more pipes unless it something that I just can't get out of my head. I really need to start gifting some of the good but less expensive pipes to new smokers. |
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Post by qmechanics on Aug 6, 2019 8:48:31 GMT -5
I appreciate it anytime. I was hoping you might take a stab at one, if the price is right, to compare notes. However, I perfectly understand if you do not wish to do so. I have almost 200 pipes, and at least 60 are world class top of the line. I have $1000 worth of morta pipes that I don't smoke more than once a year. I just can't justify ANY more pipes unless it something that I just can't get out of my head. I really need to start gifting some of the good but less expensive pipes to new smokers. Perfectly understandable, for me these pipes fill a need that I use a few cobs for. If they do the trick and last longer than the cobs, which I expect they will, it is a win. PS I do respect your experience with Morta and other things.... |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 6, 2019 8:55:32 GMT -5
I have almost 200 pipes, and at least 60 are world class top of the line. I have $1000 worth of morta pipes that I don't smoke more than once a year. I just can't justify ANY more pipes unless it something that I just can't get out of my head. I really need to start gifting some of the good but less expensive pipes to new smokers. Perfectly understandable, for me these pipes fill a need that I used a few cobs for. If they do the trick and last longer than the cobs, which I expect they will, it is a win. I have the first cob I ever bought plus a couple of dozen others. Cobs aren't included in my pipe count. I have custom cobs and cobs that I have modified myself. I mostly just smoke Burley blends in the8. For tasting purposes, I use the Zenith double wall porcelain pipes. They don't add or subtract anything from the tobacco and can be de-ghosted in the dishwasher. I did smoke Orange Passion in a cob, but I couldn't really tell any difference afterwards. Only one bowl though. (it doesn't take me long to look at a horseshoe) |
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Aug 6, 2019 10:21:18 GMT -5
I have a Rattrays Bog Oak. I believe it was $175 or $200. Regardless, at that price, I thought I was getting a good price on Bog Oak. I would be very skeptical of any 12.50 bog oak pipe, from China or elsewhere. Just get a nice cob from MM and call it a day
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Post by sperrytops on Aug 6, 2019 13:28:07 GMT -5
I appreciate it anytime. I was hoping you might take a stab at one, if the price is right, to compare notes. However, I perfectly understand if you do not wish to do so. I have almost 200 pipes, and at least 60 are world class top of the line. I have $1000 worth of morta pipes that I don't smoke more than once a year. I just can't justify ANY more pipes unless it something that I just can't get out of my head. I really need to start gifting some of the good but less expensive pipes to new smokers. Ronv69, that's some collection. Eclipses my 32 pipe collection. I'd be curious, though, with that many pipes, how do you go about choosing a rotation? |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 6, 2019 14:17:18 GMT -5
I have almost 200 pipes, and at least 60 are world class top of the line. I have $1000 worth of morta pipes that I don't smoke more than once a year. I just can't justify ANY more pipes unless it something that I just can't get out of my head. I really need to start gifting some of the good but less expensive pipes to new smokers. Ronv69, that's some collection. Eclipses my 32 pipe collection. I'd be curious, though, with that many pipes, how do you go about choosing a rotation? He has so many, his rotation looks more like a straight line. 😉 |
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Post by qmechanics on Aug 6, 2019 20:58:01 GMT -5
I have a Rattrays Bog Oak. I believe it was $175 or $200. Regardless, at that price, I thought I was getting a good price on Bog Oak. I would be very skeptical of any 12.50 bog oak pipe, from China or elsewhere. Just get a nice cob from MM and call it a day .Not everyone considers a 175-200 dollar pipe affordable, I am among them these days. Besides such a cost is not appropriate to the use I have in mind. If you have read the past posts, you will find I have completed a few tests and did some research on the pipe maker and his pipes. Both pipe and maker are from Poland, the rest can be read at one's leisure. I respect one's tendency towards caution (I did not buy a few of these pipes without some reservations). A different choice is understandable, however I am trying to eliminate some fears to uncover what is true. Personally, if my tests prove it is a go, I am looking to use these pipes over cobs and at a similar price point, why not? I am not a cob guy (I also see their uses) and would prefer wood that has similar characteristics, like Morta, minus the tendency to burn out like cobs. |
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Aug 6, 2019 21:14:58 GMT -5
I have a Rattrays Bog Oak. I believe it was $175 or $200. Regardless, at that price, I thought I was getting a good price on Bog Oak. I would be very skeptical of any 12.50 bog oak pipe, from China or elsewhere. Just get a nice cob from MM and call it a day .Not everyone considers a 175-200 dollar pipe affordable, I am among them these days. Besides such a cost is not appropriate to the use I have in mind. If you have read the past posts, you will find I have completed a few tests and did some research on the pipe maker and his pipes. Both pipe and maker are from Poland, the rest can be read at one's leisure. I respect one's desire towards caution (I did not buy a few of these pipes without some reservations). A different choice is understandable, however I am trying to eliminate some fears to uncover what is true. Personally, if my tests prove it is a go, I am looking to use these pipes over cobs and at a similar price point, why not? I am not a cob guy (I also see their uses) and would prefer wood that has similar characteristics, like Morta, minus the tendency to burn out like cobs. Good to know. That's unreal he's able to sell at that price. How does he make any profit? I guess he doesn't. |
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Post by qmechanics on Aug 6, 2019 21:40:47 GMT -5
.Not everyone considers a 175-200 dollar pipe affordable, I am among them these days. Besides such a cost is not appropriate to the use I have in mind. If you have read the past posts, you will find I have completed a few tests and did some research on the pipe maker and his pipes. Both pipe and maker are from Poland, the rest can be read at one's leisure. I respect one's desire towards caution (I did not buy a few of these pipes without some reservations). A different choice is understandable, however I am trying to eliminate some fears to uncover what is true. Personally, if my tests prove it is a go, I am looking to use these pipes over cobs and at a similar price point, why not? I am not a cob guy (I also see their uses) and would prefer wood that has similar characteristics, like Morta, minus the tendency to burn out like cobs. Good to know. That's unreal he's able to sell at that price. How does he make any profit? I guess he doesn't. He worked and/or still works for Mr. Bog pipes. I bet supply wise he gets what he wants for less or maybe has stock around and/or scrap. The pipes are simple, rustic, no claim is made as to the quality of the Morta and the stems are on the cheaper side. I bought a few to test them and am still examining the pipes. Maybe I am wrong, but so far what I have stated are my results. I report, you decide.😁 PS On eBay you take the hits with the misses to hopefully find your product with a following and a profit. I believe the seller acquired the materials very cheaply and can turn out a pipe fairly quickly, given his work with Mr. Bog. This guy does not strike me as the custom made artisan type who makes pipes to a higher std of perfection and charges you for it (covered earlier). He is more of a serviceable pipe maker, with an industrial perspective if you will, that specializes in pipes that can do the job, no more hopefully no less.😁 Some are quite attractive, that is if you have a soft spot for simpler rustic pipes. PS I think the buy it now price is around thirty dollars. As noted the bids have been increasing lately. Still, even while I was actively looking, the prices did not always meet or beat the sold for price in the link provided. So the links price is not a true indicator of what the carver makes. One can also take into account how far a dollar takes one in Poland etc. This is an auction where the best price goes to those who wait for the best opportunity. I ended up paying a good price because I was cautious, a number of bids were on the low side at the time and combined shipping. All pipes ship for 8 dollars from Poland. I never met the limit, if there even was one. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 6, 2019 22:52:24 GMT -5
I have almost 200 pipes, and at least 60 are world class top of the line. I have $1000 worth of morta pipes that I don't smoke more than once a year. I just can't justify ANY more pipes unless it something that I just can't get out of my head. I really need to start gifting some of the good but less expensive pipes to new smokers. Ronv69, that's some collection. Eclipses my 32 pipe collection. I'd be curious, though, with that many pipes, how do you go about choosing a rotation? I have an 18 pipe spinning rack next to the recliner that I loaded with pipes that are all 7/10 to 9/10 that I smoke most of the time. Plus a few cobs and oddballs laying on the table. I usually smoke the first one my hand falls on. The 10s are in a cabinet across the room. Every so often, I stand in front of the cabinet for several minutes looking at each pipe until one of them speaks to me. No standard rotation on pipes or tobacco. Whatever happens, happens. If I'm watching a Sherlock Holmes movie, I smoke Wilke #515 in a Peterson. If I watch an Indian movie, I smoke Potlatch in a RockCob made of the stone used for peace pipes. That is the extent of my planning and organizing. Out of my pipes, there are over 100 that I have no intention to ever smoke. |
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Post by qmechanics on Aug 6, 2019 23:44:14 GMT -5
A collector and connoisseur of fine tobaccos, Ronv69 only smokes a limited number of pipes in his collection. He is a dual threat taking shite from no man. Yes there are times when he looks over his herd and wonders what the #$&@¥€π¥∆ did he do. Is a thinning in the works? Does Mrs Ronv69 have any true idea of her husband's obsession? Will the sun come out tomorrow? These and many other questions will be answered at some point in the near or distant future....
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 7, 2019 3:20:51 GMT -5
Good to know. That's unreal he's able to sell at that price. How does he make any profit? I guess he doesn't. He worked and/or still works for Mr. Bog pipes. I bet supply wise he gets what he wants for less or maybe has stock around and/or scrap. The pipes are simple, rustic, no claim is made as to the quality of the Morta and the stems are on the cheaper side. I bought a few to test them and am still examining the pipes. Maybe I am wrong, but so far what I have stated are my results. I report, you decide.😁 PS On eBay you take the hits with the misses to hopefully find your product with a following and a profit. I believe the seller acquired the materials very cheaply and can turn out a pipe fairly quickly, given his work with Mr. Bog. This guy does not strike me as the custom made artisan type who makes pipes to a higher std of perfection and charges you for it (covered earlier). He is more of a serviceable pipe maker, with an industrial perspective if you will, that specializes in pipes that can do the job, no more hopefully no less.😁 Some are quite attractive, that is if you have a soft spot for simpler rustic pipes. PS I think the buy it now price is around thirty dollars. As noted the bids have been increasing lately. Still, even while I was actively looking, the prices did not always meet or beat the sold for price in the link provided. So the links price is not a true indicator of what the carver makes. One can also take into account how far a dollar takes one in Poland etc. This is an auction where the best price goes to those who wait for the best opportunity. I ended up paying a good price because I was cautious, a number of bids were on the low side at the time and combined shipping. All pipes ship for 8 dollars from Poland. I never met the limit, if there even was one. Mr Bog... Now that should be the name of the manufacturer of cheap Morta pipes. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 7, 2019 11:03:03 GMT -5
I appreciate it anytime. I was hoping you might take a stab at one, if the price is right, to compare notes. However, I perfectly understand if you do not wish to do so. I have almost 200 pipes, and at least 60 are world class top of the line. I have $1000 worth of morta pipes that I don't smoke more than once a year. I just can't justify ANY more pipes unless it something that I just can't get out of my head. I really need to start gifting some of the good but less expensive pipes to new smokers. 200 pipes! Your rotation is almost up to yearly. Hahaha |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 7, 2019 11:16:51 GMT -5
A collector and connoisseur of fine tobaccos, Ronv69 only smokes a limited number of pipes in his collection. He is a dual threat taking shite from no man. Yes there are times when he looks over his herd and wonders what the #$&@¥€π¥∆ did he do. Is a thinning in the works? Does Mrs Ronv69 have any true idea of her husband's obsession? Will the sun come out tomorrow? These and many other questions will be answered at some point in the near or distant future.... Ed Wood 😁 She knows that I have a lot of pipes and tobacco, but she doesn't know exactly how much, or what a lot of you guys would call a lot which is many times what I have. She knows that I have a couple of expensive pipes but she has no idea how much I have actually spent. That would cause an unnecessarily uncomfortable few months in our happy home. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 7, 2019 11:17:53 GMT -5
I have almost 200 pipes, and at least 60 are world class top of the line. I have $1000 worth of morta pipes that I don't smoke more than once a year. I just can't justify ANY more pipes unless it something that I just can't get out of my head. I really need to start gifting some of the good but less expensive pipes to new smokers. 200 pipes! Your rotation is almost up to yearly. Hahaha I have forum friends who have 2 - 5 time as many. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 7, 2019 11:34:00 GMT -5
200 pipes! Your rotation is almost up to yearly. Hahaha I have forum friends who have 2 - 5 time as many. Who has 1000 pipes? Haha Incredible. I have a ten pipe rack I'm working on filling. And a dozen cobs. Then again, I feel that is respectable considering my means and the fact I've only been smoking 3-4 years. Especially if you take my cellar into account. I don't deny that I'll be a hundred pipe guy someday, but for now, I'm in a hurry to try everything I can and cellar everything I can before the laws make it impossible to do either. Way I see it, I can buy pipes long after they outlaw tobacco. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 7, 2019 12:15:31 GMT -5
I have forum friends who have 2 - 5 time as many. Who has 1000 pipes? Haha Incredible. I have a ten pipe rack I'm working on filling. And a dozen cobs. Then again, I feel that is respectable considering my means and the fact I've only been smoking 3-4 years. Especially if you take my cellar into account. I don't deny that I'll be a hundred pipe guy someday, but for now, I'm in a hurry to try everything I can and cellar everything I can before the laws make it impossible to do either. Way I see it, I can buy pipes long after they outlaw tobacco. That's my view too. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 7, 2019 12:36:18 GMT -5
I have forum friends who have 2 - 5 time as many. Who has 1000 pipes? Haha Incredible. I have a ten pipe rack I'm working on filling. And a dozen cobs. Then again, I feel that is respectable considering my means and the fact I've only been smoking 3-4 years. Especially if you take my cellar into account. I don't deny that I'll be a hundred pipe guy someday, but for now, I'm in a hurry to try everything I can and cellar everything I can before the laws make it impossible to do either. Way I see it, I can buy pipes long after they outlaw tobacco. JimInks has 316 as of a few days ago. Pete Rothenberg has over 1800. |
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