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Post by stone on Mar 20, 2020 15:21:13 GMT -5
The fella who taught me to shoot hand guns told me some things to never forget..It doesn't matter what gun you're shooting if you don't hit what you're shooting at..You don't want to get the first shot..You want to get the only shot..Getting in a panic can get you dead..If the time ever comes I hope I can remember those things. That reminds me. A lady friend asked me to teach her to shoot and to teach her how to defend her home. I taught her to shoot until she was comfortable and then I told her I was going to intentionally rattle her while she tried to get an unloaded revolver out of a snapped holster, point it at me, and pull the trigger.
I gave her the holstered gun and instantly started screaming an inch from her face and at the back of her neck and in her ear.....screaming mean and nasty things. She dropped the gun and started crying and I said "you're dead". After she calmed down she understood that she needed to keep her calm under duress.
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 20, 2020 15:38:53 GMT -5
The steel vault sound of a 1911 slide is sobering.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Mar 20, 2020 15:46:54 GMT -5
As is the chunck of a pump 12ga. shotgun.
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Post by monbla256 on Mar 20, 2020 15:52:08 GMT -5
The steel vault sound of a 1911 slide is sobering.  |
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Post by bigwoolie on Mar 20, 2020 16:09:38 GMT -5
And the sound of the lever racking on my Winchester 1886 45-70 😁
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Post by Darin on Mar 20, 2020 16:14:17 GMT -5
All those lovely noises, while exciting, also pinpoint your location. Just Food for Thought!
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Post by mgtarheel on Mar 20, 2020 16:42:45 GMT -5
My 22 with the silencer attached does not make a sound.
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Post by instymp on Mar 20, 2020 16:57:24 GMT -5
What I understand is that a 4" revolver is easier for inexperienced people to use for protection, as far as handguns.
I don't know, I don't have any now since that canoe trip that went bad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 18:22:19 GMT -5
1. Many modern pistols also are as simple as a revolver, having just the trigger safety. Glock, S&W M&P, Walther PPQ, H&K VP9, etc 2. Every modern semi auto pistol is designed to be drop safe and are tested to be so. They should not go off when dropped and I don't worry about dropping anything I own and shoot. 3. A DA/SA pistol also has this option. Heavy DA pull or you can pull the hammer back. 4. I can do that with a pistol that has a round chambered. Why would I carry one with any empty chamber? 5. I have looked for and never seen a study on this issue. I have been reading gun magazines for 45 years and have yet to see any studies on whether or not that is actually a deterrent in an armed confrontation. I agree that it would not be good to hear or see this from the wrong end.
Oh trust me there are many "pistols" out there that can do the things a double action revolver can do but if you don't know which ones they are it can be a daunting process to find them and they can often be more expensive than a good old fashioned snub-nose 38  And even if a pistol like a Glock is as simple to shoot, it can be intimidating if you don't know which button releases the clip and which one is the slide release, etc. There are two version of a revolver in essence, single action, and double action. There are countless version and option, and variations of a pistol. And again, its not about whether a few of the thousands of pistols out there can be as simple as a revolver, it's a a matter of "if you have, or can get, a revolver, you have the perfect home defense weapon" I don't need to trust you on this. I have owned over 150 handguns in my life, last time I looked at my spreadsheet. It is not hard at all to do a little research and try out various possibilities. If you have trouble understanding the difference between the slide release and mag release on any pistol, you probably will be too simple to figure out the cylinder release on a revolver. I have owned several snubbie revolvers and have a couple now. They are not and have never been a beginner's weapon. They require a fair amount of practice to be proficient with and are a lot harder for most people to be accurate with that most any service sized pistol. A lot more modern pistols than just a few are quite simple in operation and you can quite easily figure out which ones have the features or mode of operation that you prefer. All this being said, I have a designated 3" K-frame in .38 Special for the wife to use as her house gun. She can shoot it double action and does not have to think about what to do. Pull the trigger if she has to. My house gun can vary, but is always a pistol with night sites and a good led flashlight next to it. A spare mag is kept handy. I have thirty rds of 9mm ready to go and I know this pistol goes bang every time. Revolvers are generally super reliable, but you can hang one up. Have you ever had a bullet jump forward out of the crimp? It happens, and not just with reloads. Anyway, we are absolutely living in a golden age of handguns. There are very few models that are not reliable in this day and there is a mind numbing amount of guns to choose from. The important thing is to go with what works for you and then practice. A lot. Whether you go revolver or pistol. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 18:23:59 GMT -5
All those lovely noises, while exciting, also pinpoint your location. Just Food for Thought! Exactly. My firearms have a round chambered. Bad guy is not going to hear me doing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 18:27:47 GMT -5
What I understand is that a 4" revolver is easier for inexperienced people to use for protection, as far as handguns. I don't know, I don't have any now since that canoe trip that went bad. Totally agree with you. You can also fit a revolver with any number of aftermarket grips to get the perfect fit for a shooter's hand. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 20, 2020 18:41:56 GMT -5
My first handgun was a 1903 Colt, so I am more comfortable with autos, usually. But I do revolvers too.
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Post by Darin on Mar 20, 2020 19:29:49 GMT -5
By the way, my most recent purchase was the "Bug-A-Salt" shotgun ... highly effective at close range! LOL www.bugasalt.com/ |
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Post by fadingdaylight on Mar 20, 2020 19:46:17 GMT -5
By the way, my most recent purchase was the "Bug-A-Salt" shotgun ... highly effective at close range! LOL www.bugasalt.com/That is awesome. |
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Post by toshtego on Mar 20, 2020 22:24:53 GMT -5
And the sound of the lever racking on my Winchester 1886 45-70 😁 Mine was stolen in 2005. Do I ever miss it? Yes! Surprisingly accurate with a Lyman Peep Sight. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 23:15:22 GMT -5
1886's are awesome.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 20, 2020 23:35:35 GMT -5
What I understand is that a 4" revolver is easier for inexperienced people to use for protection, as far as handguns. I don't know, I don't have any now since that canoe trip that went bad. While some years back, semi-autos were less reliable than now, it is no longer the case...I have revolvers, but my striker fired pistols have had thousands of rounds with no malfunctions...dead nuts accurate, and the sight radius is better than on my revolvers which are all short barreled. Kind of like the 9mm vs the .45 of old, where the 9mm was looked upon as impotent....not the case anymore with newer propellants and better projectiles, I can accurately place three rounds on target much faster than two rounds of .45 I love my revolvers, but for me, the semi-auto double stack with two back up mags can solve most any problem that I may encounter...any thing past that, I am getting the trunk rifle. |
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Mar 20, 2020 23:38:27 GMT -5
Eh don't needem'
Charlie don't surf
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Post by trailboss on Mar 21, 2020 0:18:47 GMT -5
To be fair...Jerry can tactically reload his revolver faster than I can do the same with a magazine...  but rumor has it that his mom used gunpowder when he had diaper rash...and I am lazy. |
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Post by stone on Mar 21, 2020 6:59:04 GMT -5
Oh trust me there are many "pistols" out there that can do the things a double action revolver can do but if you don't know which ones they are it can be a daunting process to find them and they can often be more expensive than a good old fashioned snub-nose 38 And even if a pistol like a Glock is as simple to shoot, it can be intimidating if you don't know which button releases the clip and which one is the slide release, etc. There are two version of a revolver in essence, single action, and double action. There are countless version and option, and variations of a pistol. And again, its not about whether a few of the thousands of pistols out there can be as simple as a revolver, it's a a matter of "if you have, or can get, a revolver, you have the perfect home defense weapon" I don't need to trust you on this. I have owned over 150 handguns in my life, last time I looked at my spreadsheet. It is not hard at all to do a little research and try out various possibilities. If you have trouble understanding the difference between the slide release and mag release on any pistol, you probably will be too simple to figure out the cylinder release on a revolver. I have owned several snubbie revolvers and have a couple now. They are not and have never been a beginner's weapon. They require a fair amount of practice to be proficient with and are a lot harder for most people to be accurate with that most any service sized pistol. A lot more modern pistols than just a few are quite simple in operation and you can quite easily figure out which ones have the features or mode of operation that you prefer. All this being said, I have a designated 3" K-frame in .38 Special for the wife to use as her house gun. She can shoot it double action and does not have to think about what to do. Pull the trigger if she has to. My house gun can vary, but is always a pistol with night sites and a good led flashlight next to it. A spare mag is kept handy. I have thirty rds of 9mm ready to go and I know this pistol goes bang every time. Revolvers are generally super reliable, but you can hang one up. Have you ever had a bullet jump forward out of the crimp? It happens, and not just with reloads. Anyway, we are absolutely living in a golden age of handguns. There are very few models that are not reliable in this day and there is a mind numbing amount of guns to choose from. The important thing is to go with what works for you and then practice. A lot. Whether you go revolver or pistol. It's not a contest. I simply pointed out that if you have limited time to become familiar with a handgun, a revolver is the simplest way to go. |
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Post by stone on Mar 21, 2020 8:21:04 GMT -5
I got a gun for my wife yesterday. Best trade I ever made!  |
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Post by bigwoolie on Mar 21, 2020 10:49:33 GMT -5
All those lovely noises, while exciting, also pinpoint your location. Just Food for Thought! Exactly. My firearms have a round chambered. Bad guy is not going to hear me doing it. My 1911 is carried condition-1, cocked and locked. But if an idiot can be brought to his senses by the racking of a 12 lb .45-70 with 26" octagon bbl hold 9 rounds of 405grn hard cast, and I dont HAVE to shoot him, thats pretty good too. Deep down inside, I really am a nice guy. 😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 10:50:56 GMT -5
Jeff, no one said it was a contest. But, your original posts made the assertion that revolvers are more reliable than most pistols. This is simply not true anymore. I don't disagree about revolvers, in general, being better for someone who is not a gun person. I would not leave my wife with my H&K USP and expect her to understand how to use it. I also would not leave her with a J-frame snub. She gets a 3" K-frame with standard loads. Nothing too hot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 10:51:42 GMT -5
I got a gun for my wife yesterday. Best trade I ever made! Hopefully you didn't get a plain old revolver for her. Maybe a nice Luger? |
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Post by toshtego on Mar 21, 2020 11:38:37 GMT -5
I got a gun for my wife yesterday. Best trade I ever made! That is funny. Meanwhile, I gave my wife a Colt Detective from 1974, years ago. She loves it and shoots it well. |
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Post by toshtego on Mar 21, 2020 11:46:12 GMT -5
Hopefully, many of the guns being bought were made in the USA and that might keep the plant personnel employed as more are made.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 21:18:23 GMT -5
I got a gun for my wife yesterday. Best trade I ever made! That is funny. Meanwhile, I gave my wife a Colt Detective from 1974, years ago. She loves it and shoots it well. A fine revolver! |
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 21, 2020 22:52:41 GMT -5
I have tried my wife on 3 autos and she just refuses to learn. First wife was crackerjack with a 1911. I am going to end up getting her a J-frame of some kind. Probably DAO.
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Post by bigwoolie on Mar 21, 2020 23:31:29 GMT -5
I have tried my wife on 3 autos and she just refuses to learn. First wife was crackerjack with a 1911. I am going to end up getting her a J-frame of some kind. Probably DAO. Shweetie is NOT mechanically inclined. She's a very good shot with anything you put in her hands, but not...mechanical. Ive taken away all autos from her, and she carries a .38 DA revolver. I dont like this particular revolver very much, and will be replacing it for her with something better, but the new one will still be a .38 DA revolver. She can pull it out, point it, and shoot it. She prefers earing back the hammer and shooting SA, as its easier with her little hands, but can shoot it DA as well. Its much safer than putting a Glock or other striker fired weapon in her purse.(shudder) |
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Post by bonanzadriver on Mar 22, 2020 0:07:38 GMT -5
A few years back, when tensions were high, I sold my AR's at a considerable profit.
Last year I got an email from one of the online retailers that they were having a special on SW MP Sport AR's. I stopped by the local shop and inquired about what they had in stock and told em about the special online.
The owner of the shop, someone I've been buying from for 15 years now, immediately told me he'd match that offer.
When It was all said and done I had a new AR with the carry handle sight (my preference) with 200 rounds of ammo for a little bit over $425.
That same online retailer now has em @ $650. Oh, and their outta stock.
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And even if a pistol like a Glock is as simple to shoot, it can be intimidating if you don't know which button releases the clip and which one is the slide release, etc. There are two version of a revolver in essence, single action, and double action. There are countless version and option, and variations of a pistol. And again, its not about whether a few of the thousands of pistols out there can be as simple as a revolver, it's a a matter of "if you have, or can get, a revolver, you have the perfect home defense weapon"
