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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 29, 2020 11:34:16 GMT -5
You guys are harsh and judgemental!
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Post by Stearmandriver on Apr 29, 2020 16:06:40 GMT -5
I own several firearms, primarily for sporting purposes, but I am not anti-gun, just to get that out front. But here's a story about how you can find jackasses in any group.
In the early 2000s in the US, the Dept of Homeland security created the Federal Flight Deck Officer program to equip certain trained pilots with sidearms to defend a cockpit against another 9/11. After heavy psychological screening, selected applicants are given an abbreviated course at a FAM training facility.
So at my old job, I was flying with a relatively new first officer who also happened to be an FFDO. Cool... except that he swept me with his weapon when he put it on the first time (they cannot wear a weapon in public, so have to put it on / take it off every flight).
I wasn't sure on the first leg, so I watched... and he did it again on the second. I called him on it, asked him not to do it again. He copped an immediate attitude. Then on the third leg, he did it AGAIN.
Well, that was that. I refused to fly with him again and we took a 2 hour delay while they found me a new FO. I was interviewed by a supervisor in the FFDO program, and after explaining what happened, they pulled his creds.
The problem with programs like this is that they are often designed (unintentionally, but still) with so many hoops to jump through that they ensure that the people who get the guns are the people who *really* want the guns, which in my experience are the wrong people to give the guns to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 16:13:44 GMT -5
It was pretty cool seeing Steve McQueen on dead or alive with a Mare’s leg, but I always figured it to be halfway between a pistol and a rifle. I would rather have a pistol on the hip and a rifle in the scabbard. That contraption to me looks like a problem in search of a solution. I see no advantages and plenty of issues with this. A carbine with a stock should be more accurate. A handgun on the hip will deploy faster and fire more rounds. It is a novelty and could be fun to shoot on occasion. I’ve shot 20 rounds from the hip, eventually your bound to hit your target. Most of my shooting was holding the Mares eye level and using the sights, extremely accurate and not much of a kick. I am able to pull the stock in tight to my shoulder and shoot, I have long arms so not so comfortable for me but can be done. Over the weekend I intend to remove the manufacturer’s stock and make a long stock from walnut. Not difficult to remove the stock and swap when desired. I intend on keeping the original design/shape, I will make a hard rubber butt plate. Not the first time I made a custom stock. The Rossi I own for many years now has two wood stocks as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 16:20:07 GMT -5
Even during a compilation serious accidents can happen by a professional shooter.
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Post by instymp on Apr 29, 2020 17:15:09 GMT -5
I own several firearms, primarily for sporting purposes, but I am not anti-gun, just to get that out front. But here's a story about how you can find jackasses in any group. In the early 2000s in the US, the Dept of Homeland security created the Federal Flight Deck Officer program to equip certain trained pilots with sidearms to defend a cockpit against another 9/11. After heavy psychological screening, selected applicants are given an abbreviated course at a FAM training facility. So at my old job, I was flying with a relatively new first officer who also happened to be an FFDO. Cool... except that he swept me with his weapon when he put it on the first time (they cannot wear a weapon in public, so have to put it on / take it off every flight). I wasn't sure on the first leg, so I watched... and he did it again on the second. I called him on it, asked him not to do it again. He copped an immediate attitude. Then on the third leg, he did it AGAIN. Well, that was that. I refused to fly with him again and we took a 2 hour delay while they found me a new FO. I was interviewed by a supervisor in the FFDO program, and after explaining what happened, they pulled his creds. The problem with programs like this is that they are often designed (unintentionally, but still) with so many hoops to jump through that they ensure that the people who get the guns are the people who *really* want the guns, which in my experience are the wrong people to give the guns to. Had a gun shop owner/instructor/competitive shooter sweep me once. The minute he did it & saw my reaction he apologized. A brainfart can be costly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 19:23:13 GMT -5
On the above video it was suppose to be competition, not compilation. Spell check at it again👍
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Post by trailboss on Apr 29, 2020 20:44:59 GMT -5
On the above video it was suppose to be competition, not compilation. Spell check at it again👍 You can clearly see his finger wrapping around the trigger. He broke one of the basic rules of firearms safety.
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Post by trailboss on Apr 29, 2020 20:53:06 GMT -5
I own several firearms, primarily for sporting purposes, but I am not anti-gun, just to get that out front. But here's a story about how you can find jackasses in any group. In the early 2000s in the US, the Dept of Homeland security created the Federal Flight Deck Officer program to equip certain trained pilots with sidearms to defend a cockpit against another 9/11.... You sound like you are anti- bonehead, and so am I. Every time I go shooting with friends, family, or newbies it all starts with a review of gun safety practices. You break the rules, you are done for the day. If you insist on staying, I insist on leaving. If disqualification for breaking the rules is good enough for the IDPA, it should be good enough for casual shooting.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 29, 2020 21:04:37 GMT -5
On the above video it was suppose to be competition, not compilation. Spell check at it again👍 You ever shoot a Five Seven? 😉
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Post by puffy on Apr 29, 2020 21:43:32 GMT -5
I once worked in a place that had armed security guards..I asked one of them where he practiced shooting..He said I never practiced.The gun came with the job.That made me feel really safe..I started looking for places to hide in case shooting started.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 23:17:27 GMT -5
On the above video it was suppose to be competition, not compilation. Spell check at it again👍 You ever shoot a Five Seven? 😉 Nope, never had the reason or desire to shoot that model pistol. Only two semi-automatics I own is a Colt 1911 with a competition trigger I put on a few years ago. Also own a Wilson Combat, both have there place in my life. I have no reason to own an AR or AK. Guess I’m an old fashion revolver person. My everyday carry is my two Colt .45 revolvers. When in the high country I carry a Snake Slayer with two 410 shells for close range if needed. My other revolvers consist of a S&W J frame .357 and a S&W .357 with a 6” barrel. I have a few other revolvers as well, all in a gun safe when not in use. My two special pistols are my Colt Pythons, one was originally mine which I purchased back over 20 years ago new and purchased one for a sibling. He never got the chance to hold it, he lost his life defending our country. They both have a special place in my heart.
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Post by ironclad on Apr 30, 2020 16:54:22 GMT -5
You ever shoot a Five Seven? 😉 Nope, never had the reason or desire to shoot that model pistol. Only two semi-automatics I own is a Colt 1911 with a competition trigger I put on a few years ago. Also own a Wilson Combat, both have there place in my life. I have no reason to own an AR or AK. Guess I’m an old fashion revolver person. My everyday carry is my two Colt .45 revolvers. When in the high country I carry a Snake Slayer with two 410 shells for close range if needed. My other revolvers consist of a S&W J frame .357 and a S&W .357 with a 6” barrel. I have a few other revolvers as well, all in a gun safe when not in use. My two special pistols are my Colt Pythons, one was originally mine which I purchased back over 20 years ago new and purchased one for a sibling. He never got the chance to hold it, he lost his life defending our country. They both have a special place in my heart. I carry a Bond Arms Serpent Slayer IV as well. Good for snakes, bankers, lawyers, etc.
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Post by trailboss on Apr 30, 2020 22:33:22 GMT -5
Daily carry is a Ruger Sr9c dead nuts accurate, trunk gun is an AK pistol, various guns around the home, on my side of the bed is a trusty 870 12 gauge and the wife has an M1 carbine jungle clipped.
In the living room is the Colt 6920 SOCOM because life is lie a box of chocolates, you never know what you will get.
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Post by bigwoolie on Apr 30, 2020 23:01:01 GMT -5
I got in a custome made front sight today for my Precision Center BFR .44mag. Gotta get a smith to drill and tap the bbl to mount it now. The revolver came from the factory set up for a scope.
Just in case I gotta shoot a bad guy...behind the refridgerator...that's in the neighbor's house. 😁
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 3:20:44 GMT -5
Nope, never had the reason or desire to shoot that model pistol. Only two semi-automatics I own is a Colt 1911 with a competition trigger I put on a few years ago. Also own a Wilson Combat, both have there place in my life. I have no reason to own an AR or AK. Guess I’m an old fashion revolver person. My everyday carry is my two Colt .45 revolvers. When in the high country I carry a Snake Slayer with two 410 shells for close range if needed. My other revolvers consist of a S&W J frame .357 and a S&W .357 with a 6” barrel. I have a few other revolvers as well, all in a gun safe when not in use. My two special pistols are my Colt Pythons, one was originally mine which I purchased back over 20 years ago new and purchased one for a sibling. He never got the chance to hold it, he lost his life defending our country. They both have a special place in my heart. I carry a Bond Arms Serpent Slayer IV as well. Good for snakes, bankers, lawyers, etc. That’s a beauty designed with a particular purpose. Enjoy for many years. I like your point for bankers and lawyers. The 410 would be my choice for all serpents! It’s a pure precession pistol as are all Bond Arms are. Also a company with superb customer service.
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Post by toshtego on May 1, 2020 11:40:15 GMT -5
I have a sawed-off S X S .410 with a cut down pistol grip which I carried on the ATV while working fields. Snakes were a problem while picking up hay bales. With the small Prairie Rattlesnakes we have here, a shovel is enough. I do not even use that unless they are a real threat which is seldom. If we had Crotalus Atrox, Old Diamond Back, that would be a different story altogether.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 1, 2020 11:55:08 GMT -5
I have a sawed-off S X S .410 with a cut down pistol grip which I carried on the ATV while working fields. Snakes were a problem while picking up hay bales. With the small Prairie Rattlesnakes we have here, a shovel is enough. I do not even use that unless they are a real threat which is seldom. If we had Crotalus Atrox, Old Diamond Back, that would be a different story altogether. In '70 I had a chance to pick up a Savage Whippet, a factory short shotgun in 410 and I've been kicking myself ever since. I did pick up a brand new Turkish 12ga 18.5 inch for $50 on gun broker, but it's got a plastic stock. I don't know if any of the standard pistol grips will fit it. It does fold in half so it's pretty small until you decide to shoot it.
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Post by trailboss on May 2, 2020 12:06:30 GMT -5
My son was fresh from the Marine Corps and was overly cocky on his all knowing expertise on firearms. He bought the: For the coolness factor and to have rambo nite with the boys out in the woods. The problem was he had never been trained on that type of weapon and was lucky he didn't lose teeth. He sold that gun pretty quick after that.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 2, 2020 12:53:10 GMT -5
My son was fresh from the Marine Corps and was overly cocky on his all knowing expertise on firearms. He bought the: For the coolness factor and to have rambo nite with the boys out in the woods. The problem was he had never been trained on that type of weapon and was lucky he didn't lose teeth. He sold that gun pretty quick after that. Can't see the product.
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Post by trailboss on May 2, 2020 19:42:06 GMT -5
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Post by toshtego on May 2, 2020 19:59:34 GMT -5
I have never understood why someone would want to fire a 12 guage shotgun with buckshot or any other 2 3/4 inch or 3 inch shell in a gun with no stock. I guess there is a reason.
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Post by bigwoolie on May 2, 2020 20:22:18 GMT -5
I have never understood why someone would want to fire a 12 guage shotgun with buckshot or any other 2 3/4 inch or 3 inch shell in a gun with no stock. I guess there is a reason. Years ago, when doing some law enforcement work in native villages in bush Alaska, I carried a SxS 10 gauge that was sawed off to 16" and loaded with 3 1/2" magnum 00 buck. It was intended for backup for the giant coastal brown bears that infested the area when out on search-and-rescues in the bush. I never had the need, or the nerve, to fire it. When I later moved to Colorado to cowboy some more, I sold it. The clown that bought it wound up in the hospital. He loaded both barrels, whipped it up hip-high and pulled both triggers at the same time. Busted his hand up pretty good. My youth and adventurous spirit was tempered just enough by what tiny little bit of common sense I had at the time to save me a whole lot of grief. I was 6' tall, and only weighed 145 lbs. That thing would have messed me up good. I never bought another one.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 2, 2020 21:34:47 GMT -5
Lighter people can handle recoil better because they give more. Big guys suffer the most. Of course a 577 Tyrannosaur has to have a big guy just to pick it up.
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Post by bigwoolie on May 11, 2020 20:01:34 GMT -5
I dropped off my BFR .44mag at the gunsmith today. He's drilling, tapping and installing a custom front sight I had made for it, as it came from the factory set up for a scope. He's also adjusting the timing and slicking the internals up a bit. Im hoping to make it my elk buster this fall.
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Post by instymp on May 12, 2020 8:12:05 GMT -5
I have never understood why someone would want to fire a 12 guage shotgun with buckshot or any other 2 3/4 inch or 3 inch shell in a gun with no stock. I guess there is a reason. They are easier to run around the house with over a longer barrel. I had one & wasnt bad to me. But I dont feel more recoil with my 45s vs a glock 19 or glock 23 either.
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Post by simnettpratt on May 12, 2020 19:11:49 GMT -5
Here's an interesting review of the Mossberg 590 Shockwave in 12ga, with a 14 inch barrel and classified nationally (so check your local laws) as a pistol so no stamp required. The review is by a magazine in Houston called Gun Tests. I like them because they accept no advertising whatsoever, and buy their guns locally, ie they're not provided by the manufacturer. Here's the 590 (it also comes in .410): They found it wasn't any fun with the 4+1 3 inch shells, was better with 5+1 2.75 inchers, but best with a $17 Mini-clip from OPSol, that allows you to shoot Aguila 1.75 inch mini-shells, which gives you an 8+1 capacity. At ten yards, they were getting a ten inch spread with the Aguila 1.75 #4 or #1 buckshot, and a 3.25 inch group with the Aguila 1.75 inch slugs, which they didn't expect from a 14 inch barrel with a cylinder bore. Some guy who owned the Mossberg Shockwave in .410 said he mounted a laser on top of his that improved his accuracy firing from the hip substantionally. The Mossie retails for $455, and is made in Eagle Pass, Texas. Hmm. Here's the review, and it includes the link to OPSol, for the $17 mini-clip that allows you to shoot the Aguilas: Gun Tests review
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Post by Ronv69 on May 12, 2020 19:16:18 GMT -5
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Post by toshtego on May 12, 2020 19:59:24 GMT -5
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Post by Ronv69 on May 12, 2020 20:22:51 GMT -5
They make it with a stock.
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Post by bigwoolie on May 12, 2020 20:30:30 GMT -5
I dropped off my BFR .44mag at the gunsmith today. He's drilling, tapping and installing a custom front sight I had made for it, as it came from the factory set up for a scope. He's also adjusting the timing and slicking the internals up a bit. Im hoping to make it my elk buster this fall. The smith called. He already has it done, and Shweetie will be bringing it home Saturday. I also got permission today to hunt on a big ranch up on the Canadian border anytime I want. Things are coming together.
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